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Old 01-06-2004, 10:18 AM   #1
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10g too small for cichlids?

Hi,

I have a spare 10g tank (originally I used it as a quarantine tank). I was thinking of making it a cichlid tank with some plants, one or two small but brightly colored cichlids. However the local Super Pets girl said cichlids are too aggressive to be in a 10 tank.

Can someone please advise? I like colors and "movement" in my fish, and cichlids seemed really good. I was gonna keep3-4 fish in the 10g, or maybe a bigger fish but then just 1-2. Is is possible?

Water changes will be weekly, and the tank will be planted/heater/aqua clear mini filter (no biowheel with those).
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Old 01-06-2004, 10:35 AM   #2
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Maybe 2 smaller cichlids, but a larger tank is always better. Just make sure they are not overly agressive cichlids.
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Old 01-06-2004, 10:40 AM   #3
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Yes for very small cichlids (about four), but they will start within a month they will start to become aggressive. Towards eachother. I would get a larger tank for them before they begin to get larger!
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Old 01-06-2004, 10:58 AM   #4
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Whenever this topic comes up I always remind folks of the 'dwarf' cichlids. Many members of Apistogramma, Microgeophagus (like Rams), and Nannacara will do quite nicely in a 10 gallon tank as long as you only keep a pair. The above are all South American fish. Pelvicachromis (like the 'kribensis') and Nannacara are African riverine species that stay reasonably small. A pair of any of them will thrive and breed in a 10 gallon tank. Though I have no experience with them, I understand that a number of species of the African Rift Lake 'shell-dwellers' also stay reasonably small.

The only problem you have with keeping these fish in a 10 gallon tank is the difficulty in finding a 'compatible' pair. In a larger tank you could just put in 5 or 6 fish and wait until they began to pair off. With a 10 [acronym:e8450f36b7="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:e8450f36b7] tank you don't really have this option so you have to hope that you get a good pair right off the bat.
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Old 01-06-2004, 12:19 PM   #5
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Neolamprologus multifasciatus Is the only cichlid I have seen recommended for a 10 gallon. There are others that you can squeeze in and may need to move later.
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Would a pair of Rams be ok in a 10gal? I don't have experience with cichlids, how do you tell the male from the female Ram?
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Old 01-06-2004, 02:20 PM   #7
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I think Rams are tricky to sex, males and females have the same color pattern. Most 'American' chichlids are like that.

You could keep some Rams but they might feel crowded, lots of the Apistogramma species will squeeze in. The problem with a 10 is that most cichlids will be happiest in pairs or trios, and they also like to have their own space in the tank. There just isn't that much real estate for 2 or 3 3"-3.5" fish. I think if you choose a fish that is under 2"-2.5" max size you will be ok. You might even be able to do some Lamprologus ocellatus if you are prepared to immediately pull any fish that are relegated to the top corners of the tank. Those are really pretty fish that have some really funny behavior.

Multies are the smallest known cichlids, males barely get over an inch.
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Old 01-06-2004, 02:40 PM   #8
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she is right they will get very very aggressive in a small tank
even in a 30g tank they will be some what still aggressive
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Old 01-06-2004, 02:58 PM   #9
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sexing rams i have found to be simple. i have a male and a female; the female has a pink spot (looks like she's blushing) under her stomach.. it's fairly easy to see. also, she's smaller than the male.
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I have to respectfully disagree with those who mention that Rams get particularly quarrelsome in a 10 gallon tank. I've bred Rams MANY times in 5 gallon tanks without undue problems. Of course...personal experiences differ but for myself I wouldn't hesitate to put a breeding pair of Rams in a 10 [acronym:8dbff34c12="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:8dbff34c12].
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