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Old 04-07-2014, 03:40 PM   #1
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130 Gallon Stocking

Looking for some advice on my setup, whether experienced cichlid keepers think i'm overstocked and with regard to my ditherfish etc.

I have a 130 US Gallon tank with the following fish
1 Rivalatus (2 inch)
1 Jewel (3 inch)
1 Spotted Severum (4.1/2 inch)
1 Male Sajica (4 inch)
1 EBJD (5.1/2 inch)
1 Geophagus Surinamensis (4.1/2 inch)
1 Texas Cichlid (2 inch)
8 Giant Danio
6 Bleeding Hearts
5 Rosy barbs
1 RTBS
1 Green Phantom Pleco
2 Clown Loach
1 Featherfin Squeaker

Filtration - 4 internal Eheim pickup 2012 each good to 50 Gallons

I don't beleive in the inch per gallon rule personally if you have a good spread of swimming levels and over filtration (as i do), but i am curious to see what people think of potential aggression and if any fish are in danger long term.
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Old 04-08-2014, 08:23 AM   #2
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Or,

How about if the cichlid list became;

1 Texas
1 Rivulatus
1 Normal Jack Dempsey
1 Jewel
1 Female Convict
1 Elioti
1 Severum

By moving around with other tanks / offloading a couple?
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Assuming the RTBS is a red tailed black shark I would remove it. That is a very territorial species that may bother other fish.
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Assuming the RTBS is a red tailed black shark I would remove it. That is a very territorial species that may bother other fish.
Its always touch and go with red tailed black sharks but in a big tank it should be ok. It chases the gt and texas around a bit but nothing else. I think its because they were added last and are smaller. When they get bigger though if it chases them it'll probably get its face bitten off, so i think if i did remove it, it would be more for its own safety.
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You have an interesting species mix. If they are dithers, there are a lot of them! Otherwise majority of the fish are small as adults. Doesn't seem to overstocked.
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Thanks for the reply.

I suppose its (realistically) about 45 inches of cichlid, about 60 inches of dither and 35 inches of bottom dweller, so about 140 inches in a 130 gallon, with overfilter and varied levels. I could reduce the giant danios to 5 maybe to free up a little more space. Am i correct in thinking though that a lot of dither fish will distract the cichlids and keep them calmer?
The main concern for me is the GT (Rivulatus) and Texas getting massive and trying to take the tank, but although they are supposed to get up to 10 inches i reckon 7 is more likely and realistic, and obviously more manageable.
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IMO your dither fish will be mutilated at an alarming rate when the cichlids grow. An unsustainable rate. IMO it sounds good in theory but the jack or the Texas will probably shred all the non aggressive species

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IMO your dither fish will be mutilated at an alarming rate when the cichlids grow. An unsustainable rate. IMO it sounds good in theory but the jack or the Texas will probably shred all the non aggressive species

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Yes, its a bit of a concern. To be fair, the Electric Blue Jack is already 5 1/2 inches and doesn't really go for anything. It did go for the giant danios and rosy barbs when they first went in but soon gave up when it found they were too fast. As i say, i'm a bit concerned about the Texas and GT when they get bigger, but i guess they might also give up after failing to catch anything! (certainly in the case of the giant danios).
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Anything can work at first but I'm not sure how successful your tank will be in the future. IMO the Texas will be super aggressive. Because at first they are all similar in size and then the Texas and jack realize that they could get some more territory by decreasing the population of your dithers.
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Anything can work at first but I'm not sure how successful your tank will be in the future. IMO the Texas will be super aggressive. Because at first they are all similar in size and then the Texas and jack realize that they could get some more territory by decreasing the population of your dithers.
Are Texas that bad? How would you compare with the Terror (i must admit the terror already has 'off' days where it looks like it wants to smash the tank up, but then goes back to peacefully swimming around with no issues).

I guess its down to the individual fish. In actual fact i have 2 texas at the moment and am planning to keep the easier going of the 2. My tank list was in view of selling one of them fairly soon!
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