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Old 11-30-2005, 03:49 PM   #1
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Adding Angels but how?

Well I want to add some more angels to my setup. Last time I tried adding in 2 more, my other 2 angels that I have seem to have gotton a little mad and started picking on them. Needless to say I took them back to the [acronym:93b616d7a4="Local Fish Store"]lfs[/acronym:93b616d7a4].
I there a way to doing this that I don't know about? I would really like for all of them to get along.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:54 PM   #2
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You just can't change the nature of the species clockradio. Once angels become established they become very territorial. It's unlikely you'll be able to add more peacefully. Sorry, but they are what they are.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:57 PM   #3
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i agree with bryanNY... they are very territorial and don't take well to other angels once they get established.
HOWEVER... you can try to add angels of exactly the same size. How big are yours? This is something that might work, but it probably won't. Ive done it with angels up to about the size of a quarter.. after that its useless.
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Old 11-30-2005, 04:08 PM   #4
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Oh well I was afraid of that. They are about 2-3 inches right now so I guess I'm out luck. They are my pride and joy (since they are the only ones that follow me around the room) and I wanted to get them some friends.
Thanks for the advice before I repeated that same mistake
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:15 PM   #5
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Be happy that you have two of them living together, and leave it at that. However, if you do try to add more, then be prepared to isolate agressors and or picked on fish. Be prepared to take them back to the [acronym:3b8c55f7eb="Local Fish Store"]LFS[/acronym:3b8c55f7eb] or buy another tank. Like you, I once tried to add more angels to a 55, it was a disaster.
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:29 PM   #6
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i recently added new angelfish..i started with 1 pair of angels, then i added 1 more pair, that didnt go off too good, the 2 new guys were forced into a corner and if the even thought about leaving it they would get jumped on quick... that went on for about 3 days.. right when i was thinking about giving up, i got a chance to put up my 55 [acronym:9447fbf2ed="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:9447fbf2ed] due to the 29 [acronym:9447fbf2ed="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:9447fbf2ed] leaking.. i transfered the 4 angelfish and added 3 more.. at first the original 2 didnt know who to go after, but after a couple of mins the other 5 started fighting back and that calmed them down pretty quick.. no they all live together with no major problems.. i even added 2 juvi discus this weekend with no problems.. i think that the fact that they are overcrowed may of brought down the aggression factor.. hth..
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oh i forgot to add, try taking them out and rearrange everything in the tank so that all of the original territory markers are moved to a different place then add the old & new guys in at the same time..
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Old 11-30-2005, 06:54 PM   #8
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wow, this could get complicated. is it possible to move the 2 i have now to another tank and add about 4 smaller ones to the 55 gallon then add the first two back later? whats the limit for angels in a 55 gallon?

i really appreciate the help, the people at the [acronym:b23ed6c5c6="Local Fish Store"]lfs[/acronym:b23ed6c5c6] don't seem to know what they're talking about.
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Old 11-30-2005, 07:04 PM   #9
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Would taking them out, rearranging the tank decor, and adding all the angels at the same time not work? I really don't know, as I've had very little experience with them.
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"Established" Angels are considered that when they have had the time to have the run of the tank, check everything out, including tankmates and claiming the entire tank as theirs.

Introducing any angels after this point will only end badly. You can turn lights off, flip the tank upside down and give it a couple of spins...they will still know each other and begin re-establishing their dominance.

It's just their nature.
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