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Old 10-26-2003, 10:59 PM   #1
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Antisocial Cichlid....

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I have a pretty new 55 gallon tank with 10 fish in it. I think its towards the end of "cycling", but lately one of my fish is spending a lot of time hiding behind a plant in the back corner of the tank. I don't know the real name of the fish, but it's a yellow cichlid with black fins, and it used to be one of the most active fish in the tank. No white spots on him, so I'd like to assume he doesn't have ich. Can I give him paxil or something? Is he depressed?
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Old 10-26-2003, 11:20 PM   #2
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Perhaps he feels threated by a larger more dominant fish. What else is in the tank? Drugs won't help.
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Old 10-27-2003, 12:31 AM   #3
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You said you think it's towards the end of the cycling process: have you tested for ammonia and nitrites? It is possible the water parameters have changed and are causing stress for your fish (it sounds like a Yellow Lab, by the way).
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(it sounds like a Yellow Lab, by the way).
I agree Voodoo Chilli it's sounds like a Labidochromis Caeruleus, which is a African Cichlid from Lake Malawi, you don't say what the other fish in the tank are and it could basically be that it is being harassed by one of the other fish.

What i would do first is check your water parameters ammonia/nitrite/nitrate and also tell us what the other fish in the tank are.

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(it sounds like a Yellow Lab, by the way).
Yep, sound like that. In any case, check its fins to make sure they are not clamped together--which would indicate a health problem. What other kinds of fish do you have in the tank? Yellow Labs (I currently have three) are not as aggressive as some other Africans, and mine prefer to hide in caves unless it's feeding time.
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Antisocial Cichlid

The largest fish in the tank is an Albino Oscar, but he's only about 4" long, and he's been pretty mellow so far. There are 5 small blackfin sharks in there, and they've been nipping the oscar's fins a bit, but I've never seen them pay any attention to the cichlids. There are also 2 orange cichlids (again, i dont know the real names), and a golden gourami. (My boss gave me the gourami because it was harassing the other fish in his tank, and I'm supprised it's still alive in mine).

As for the nitrates and amonia, the amonia was a little on the high side last time I checked, and the nitrates were on their way down, which is why I assumed the tank was almost finished cycling. Do you think its the water quality thats bothering the Cichlid?
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What is your ph? I have a african cichlid tank and they require a higher ph that south american cichlids and oscars....... Now I'm not sure about the blackfin sharks
and the gourami but I'm just assuming they live in a lower ph as well. If the ph is too low then that can stress out the cichlids (even though only one is showing signs of stress).
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I don't have to burst your bubble but it sounds like you may have a disaster on your hands in the future.

The orange cichlids sound like Red zebra's, off hand. They'll get fairly aggressive. The gold gourami will probably get killed first, and then maybe the sharks (I don't personally know anything about him). The oscar will eventually start eating all those fish once he gets large.

Either way, I don't think the tank has a good mix of capatible fish. The yellow lab is going to end up harassed all around, as will the gourami most likely. The red zebras might stick it out, but once that oscar hits a foot or so, chomp.
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True...... The oscar will probably grow the fastest too. Not to mention I've heard that they will eat until there is nothing left or they eat themselves to death......... The Oscar will need a much larger tank in the future it it gets to be full size...... blah blah blah..... I'm starting to ramble sorry.
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I must ask, did an LFS sell you all these fish at the same time or knowing what you already had in your tank and how big it was?

If so, this is not an LFS I would want to deal with in the future.

You have several types of fish all needing different conditions and several that will get rather violent.
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