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Old 05-15-2014, 01:07 PM   #1
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Apistogramma suggestions?

I'm in the middle of planning out a freshwater South American 55 gallon tank. (Preferably amazon)

(Some backstory: I inherited this tank from my uncle who passed away recently, and he LOVED South American fish... he toured around down there while in the navy and always loved having fish, so I want to set this up and have it really nice in honor of him. He also first introduced me to fish keeping when I was 8 years old.)

So far, I plan on getting 5-7 corydoras, 6-8 black skirt tetras (or similar) or 10-14 neon tetras, and I'm kind of at a loss for a third, kind of "centerpiece" fish. I thought maybe angels, but they'd eat the small ones if they got big enough and I don't know that 55 gal would be enough for them with the others.

So, enter apistogramma! I've never had cichlids before, but from what I've read, these ones in particular do well in community tanks. I don't think I'd want to breed any though. Can you recommend any ones you think might get along well with the setup I'm planning? Also, is it okay to have a single one or do they need company of their own kind? So far I've read that established pairs or harems are good for breeding, but I'm not really interested in breeding.

Thanks in advance! Sorry for my lengthy post.
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:18 PM   #2
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In a tank that size you could do 6-7 male cacatouides and it would be awesome!!! A bit expensive but awesome!!
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I'd agree with an all male tank, though I think 6-7 would be a little high. I'd recommend 3-4 and probably borelli which get a decent bit larger than cacs. Or a mix of a couple species (as long as they are all males).
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It would be tough to choose just one. Especially if you're just going to get male's, maybe get a couple different types. There are just so many cool ones to choose from
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This is new to me guys! I didn't know you could mix males like that.. I'm on trouble now.. More tanks!
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You should make a black water amazon tank! Apistogrammas love black water conditions and will for sure breed. My Apistos love the leaf litter in my tank.
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My Apistos are still juveniles though
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You should make a black water amazon tank! Apistogrammas love black water conditions and will for sure breed. My Apistos love the leaf litter in my tank.
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My Apistos are still juveniles though

I am definitely interested in a black water tank... I want to get it all established first though before I introduce any leaf litter. What kind of apistos do you have? They are pretty!
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Thank you everyone! I will be looking into starting off with 3 males then, once I get the tank cycled and have the corys established and comfortable.

I didn't know males were okay to mix then! So they are fine together as long as there are no females to fight over? Do you think they'd be big enough to go after neon tetras? Maybe I'll stick to the black skirts then.
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They are apistogramma viejita the large one is starting to get some red on his face and fins.
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This is new to me guys! I didn't know you could mix males like that.. I'm on trouble now.. More tanks!

I was thinking the same haha, I like the idea of a black water tank
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