Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Freshwater > Cichlid Discussion
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 04-28-2010, 12:01 AM   #1
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
heemskn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 28
beginner African cichlid questions

I bought 9 random African cichlids from the "assorted" variety at walmart, petco and petsmart (in 3 batches). Except for one individual they seem to be doing well in my 55 gallon tank which they share with a mississippi map turtle, 2 cherry barbs, a danio, a black neon tetra, and two Siamese algae eaters. The community fish have lived for over a year with a murderous turtle so they can fend for themselves pretty well, and don't seem to be bothered by the cichlids. But I will move them to another tank next week, to make it a bit less crowded.

I am new to Cichlids so apologies if these are obvious questions:

1. One of the larger Africans has been hanging by herself in or near a cave at a corner of the tank and has never eaten yet. She seems lethargic except when other fish come near her corner, in which case she chases them out. Could she be "holding"? Pictures attached.

2. Is the yellow and black striped fish in the other picture the female version of the electric blue johanni? The blue johanni seems to be the boss in the tank. If yellow/black is the female, should I add another one?

3. The one African that is not doing well looks like a blue kenyi to me, and has a whitish area behind his head. His fins are either always retracted or partially gone, and he swims funny. Unfortunately he is also every shy, unlike the others who come right out to nip at my hands or the net. Should I take him out of the tank and if so, any tips on how to catch him? I have tons of river rocks on the bottom with lots of hiding places. It is going to take me an hour and stress everybody out if I have to take all the rocks out...

Thanks,

Nick
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	holding.jpg
Views:	82
Size:	38.6 KB
ID:	23465   Click image for larger version

Name:	holding side view.jpg
Views:	82
Size:	41.2 KB
ID:	23466  

Click image for larger version

Name:	related.jpg
Views:	80
Size:	48.6 KB
ID:	23467  
__________________

__________________
14 gal planted with 7 neon tetras, 1 pleco
55 gal with 1 Mississippi map turtle, 1 crayfish, some ghost shrimp, 10 black neon tetras
heemskn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2010, 08:11 AM   #2
Aquarium Free - 2+ Years
 
mfdrookie516's Avatar



POTM Champion
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Winchester, Ky
Posts: 19,409
1- i dont think thats a she... looks like a male auratus thats starting to change colors
2- looks like a female or juvenile male auratus
3- google columnaris... i went through that a few months ago...
__________________

__________________
-Jonathan

"What, exactly, is the internet? Basically it is a global network exchanging digitized data in such a way that any computer, anywhere, that is equipped with a device called a 'modem', can make a noise like a duck choking on a kazoo." - Dave Barry
mfdrookie516 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2010, 10:09 AM   #3
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Union, MO
Posts: 1,234
I agree with all 3 of MFD's responses...columnaris is nasty and you'll want to start treating it ASAP
__________________
sliderfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2010, 09:12 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
heemskn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 28
Thanks for the advice.

I can't find the sick cichlid anymore, and I suspect/hope that the turtle took care of him.

I will increase the amount of salt in the tank. Should I also treat the whole tank with an anti-biotic as a precaution?

If so, what would you recommend for small (about 1 inch) African Cichlids?
__________________
14 gal planted with 7 neon tetras, 1 pleco
55 gal with 1 Mississippi map turtle, 1 crayfish, some ghost shrimp, 10 black neon tetras
heemskn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-28-2010, 09:25 PM   #5
Aquarium Free - 2+ Years
 
mfdrookie516's Avatar



POTM Champion
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Winchester, Ky
Posts: 19,409
I would dose melafix and pimafix daily with a 50% pwc in addition to salt... i did this for 2 weeks every day and rid my tank of columnaris (if thats what it is) in which 5-6 of the 13 fish i have were infected... also lower the temp if possible... low 70's.. the columnaris bacteria multiply alot faster in warmer temps
__________________
-Jonathan

"What, exactly, is the internet? Basically it is a global network exchanging digitized data in such a way that any computer, anywhere, that is equipped with a device called a 'modem', can make a noise like a duck choking on a kazoo." - Dave Barry
mfdrookie516 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2010, 11:18 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
heemskn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 28
I turned off the heater, upped the salt and did a water change, but it did not add medicine yet. I think I may have dodged the bullet with the columnaris. The sick looking Kenyi, and both auratus have disappeared without a trace. Into my turtle I presume.

But all the other fish seem happy and healthy. They are not the least bit bothered by the turtle and playfully stay just out of her reach. And she has given up trying to catch them. So I guess she could spot the sick ones and took care of them.
__________________
14 gal planted with 7 neon tetras, 1 pleco
55 gal with 1 Mississippi map turtle, 1 crayfish, some ghost shrimp, 10 black neon tetras
heemskn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2010, 10:43 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice Apprentice
 
heemskn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 28
light colored kenyi

Just to be sure, please let me know if you think this Kenyi looks OK. She is active and eating but is much lighter colored then the other two. The flash of the camera brought out some more blue, but in real life she is a bit milky or pale, not bright blue with dark, almost black, bands. Could there be something wrong with her or is this a normal color variation

Thanks.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	normal and pale.jpg
Views:	92
Size:	61.9 KB
ID:	23543   Click image for larger version

Name:	side by side.jpg
Views:	74
Size:	43.6 KB
ID:	23544  

__________________
14 gal planted with 7 neon tetras, 1 pleco
55 gal with 1 Mississippi map turtle, 1 crayfish, some ghost shrimp, 10 black neon tetras
heemskn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2010, 01:19 AM   #8
Aquarium Advice Activist
 
jeffwisely's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: washington
Posts: 149
this is normal whne she get agressive or protective she will become darker. and as she gets older
__________________
jeffwisely is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2010, 12:23 AM   #9
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Crepe's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 2,332
You realize you will probably lose your other fish as your cichlids get older. They are going to harass your danios, tetras, and algae eaters to death when the cichlids each reach about 3 inches, that's when they start staking out territories. Also, remove the turtle when you treat for diseases. Copper based medications and several other chemical treatments are deadly for reptillians and amphibians. Other than the sick one the kenyi look fine.
__________________

__________________
Crepe is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
african, african cichlid, beginner, cichlid, ich

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
African Cichlid sweetness8t5 Cichlid Discussion 14 06-20-2007 04:20 PM
Transforming South Am. Cichlid into an African Cichlid? goalorientation Cichlid Discussion 18 06-15-2006 04:39 AM
Name the African Cichlid Fishyfanatic Cichlid Discussion 4 12-29-2005 08:59 PM
African Cichlid Questions JM Cichlid Discussion 13 08-20-2004 11:36 AM
My African Cichlid ReefRaff Cichlid Discussion 4 05-25-2003 09:16 AM







» Photo Contest Winners








All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.