Bolivan Rams - Aquarium Advice

Mlrust1816 · 12-19-2005, 02:14 PM

Ok so a week ago I had 2 Male Bolivian Rams that were very territorial towards each other. Along with the two Rams i had 1 Green Cory a Juli and a Raubuti Cory, also 4 Zebra Danios and a CAE. In a 20 gal high

So what I did was I set up a tank for my mom and gave her one of the Rams and the Green cory thinking this would resolve the problem.

but the Ram left in my tank doesnt seem to be as happy as he was before. I say this by observing its colors which are not as bright and also he seems to be dark more often. One thing that may be causing this is that with the move i took out a piece of substrate which was the remainging Rams territory. I did this hopeing that the ram would take over the territory of the Ram that I took out which is a calmer and over all better territory.

So the question is will the Ram in time become more comfortable with his new territory.

Jchillin · 12-19-2005, 03:31 PM

It would seem that even though they may have been aggressive with each other, having that relationship terminated has created lonelyness. Since it appears that they had been together for some time, this is more than likely the case. How is the behavior of the other Ram?

Changing the landscape is also an issue. He may think that he is in a new environment altogether. In time, he can adjust but more than likely he will not exhibit the same behaviors.

Mlrust1816 · 12-19-2005, 07:25 PM

So I decided to get a female bolivian ram in hope that this will make the now lonely male be happier now that he has a potential mate

I have also heard that it is relatively easy to bread bolivians. So we'll see what happens

Husmut · 12-20-2005, 09:28 AM

You probably should think about their natural behavior also. This interaction is natural and to be expected in such an aggressive species. By separating the two, you have certainly severed a relationship that is expressed by "butting heads" in this case. Was there any real damage being caused to either fish? Only under these circumstances would I sperate. The danger of doing this is A)The fish becomes lonely and may starve itself etc resulting in a fatality, and B) if he gets over himself, he will want to still display this behavior essentially making other fish (who are less able to cope) a target.

12-19-2005, 02:14 PM	#1
Mlrust1816 Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Winona Mn Posts: 65	Bolivan Rams Ok so a week ago I had 2 Male Bolivian Rams that were very territorial towards each other. Along with the two Rams i had 1 Green Cory a Juli and a Raubuti Cory, also 4 Zebra Danios and a CAE. In a 20 gal high So what I did was I set up a tank for my mom and gave her one of the Rams and the Green cory thinking this would resolve the problem. but the Ram left in my tank doesnt seem to be as happy as he was before. I say this by observing its colors which are not as bright and also he seems to be dark more often. One thing that may be causing this is that with the move i took out a piece of substrate which was the remainging Rams territory. I did this hopeing that the ram would take over the territory of the Ram that I took out which is a calmer and over all better territory. So the question is will the Ram in time become more comfortable with his new territory. __________________ Mike 20 Gallon High Power head for water movement and a Cascade 100 Filter 1 Male and 1 Female Mikrogeophagus altispinosus 4 Coradoras (3 juli, 1 yellow rabauti) 1 Brachydanio rerio 5 Hyphessobrycon serpae 1 Gyrinocheilus aymonieri 1 Otocinclus

12-19-2005, 03:31 PM	#2
Jchillin Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York, NY (The Big Apple) Posts: 12,976 Images: 47	It would seem that even though they may have been aggressive with each other, having that relationship terminated has created lonelyness. Since it appears that they had been together for some time, this is more than likely the case. How is the behavior of the other Ram? Changing the landscape is also an issue. He may think that he is in a new environment altogether. In time, he can adjust but more than likely he will not exhibit the same behaviors. __________________ _________________________________

12-19-2005, 07:25 PM	#3
Mlrust1816 Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Winona Mn Posts: 65	So I decided to get a female bolivian ram in hope that this will make the now lonely male be happier now that he has a potential mate I have also heard that it is relatively easy to bread bolivians. So we'll see what happens __________________ Mike 20 Gallon High Power head for water movement and a Cascade 100 Filter 1 Male and 1 Female Mikrogeophagus altispinosus 4 Coradoras (3 juli, 1 yellow rabauti) 1 Brachydanio rerio 5 Hyphessobrycon serpae 1 Gyrinocheilus aymonieri 1 Otocinclus

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12-20-2005, 09:28 AM	#4
Husmut Aquarium Advice Regular Join Date: May 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 75 Images: 6	You probably should think about their natural behavior also. This interaction is natural and to be expected in such an aggressive species. By separating the two, you have certainly severed a relationship that is expressed by "butting heads" in this case. Was there any real damage being caused to either fish? Only under these circumstances would I sperate. The danger of doing this is A)The fish becomes lonely and may starve itself etc resulting in a fatality, and B) if he gets over himself, he will want to still display this behavior essentially making other fish (who are less able to cope) a target.