Can anyone identify this Ram? - Aquarium Advice

177ichael · 02-16-2004, 11:29 PM

Hello all,

I just picked up a pair of "German Rams" from my [acronym:1cdfa933de="Local Fish Store"]LFS[/acronym:1cdfa933de]. The owner said that these two Rams will eventually develop the same coloration that the two larger rams in his show tank had. The two Rams he had in his show tank were very bright with color on the tips of the dorsal fins and various other patches of color throughout the body and head.

Does anyone recognize what type of Ram this is? Do younger Rams typically develop color as they mature?

Thanks!

ScottS · 02-16-2004, 11:48 PM

Look like Blue Rams to me. German Rams are just a strain of Blue Rams that are thought to be of higher quality than those bred in the Far East.

Madame_X · 02-16-2004, 11:57 PM

Yep, definitely Blue German Rams (microgeophagus ramirezi). They do get more colorful as they get older, particularly if you are fortunate enough to have a M/F pair. Their spawning color is incredible!

Good luck with your rams!

177ichael · 02-17-2004, 12:02 AM

Thanks for the confirmation on the Blue Rams! The owner thought that these two were most likely female, but could not say for certain because they are young. He mentioned that the females are harder to find in general. I plan on possibly setting up a breeding tank for Rams and giving it a go in the near future. I'm hoping to find a male if these two turn out to be female.

Thanks again!

medge00 · 02-17-2004, 01:33 AM

look like blue rams to me too... look for pink on the belly, that usually indicates a female in all the blue rams i've ever had. given good conditions and a little time, they'll color up rather nicely

grimlock3000 · 02-17-2004, 10:29 AM

This Ram is probably little older than yours, you can see the color starting to increase and the black spreads:

In the end you want something like this (not mine):

malkore · 02-17-2004, 08:51 PM

I find my rams 'drop' their color when stressed. When I added 4 rummy nosed tetra as dither fish, my rams were twice as colorful within 48 hours. I really like these fish.

02-16-2004, 11:29 PM	#1
177ichael Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: California Posts: 33 Images: 13	Can anyone identify this Ram? Hello all, I just picked up a pair of "German Rams" from my [acronym:1cdfa933de="Local Fish Store"]LFS[/acronym:1cdfa933de]. The owner said that these two Rams will eventually develop the same coloration that the two larger rams in his show tank had. The two Rams he had in his show tank were very bright with color on the tips of the dorsal fins and various other patches of color throughout the body and head. Does anyone recognize what type of Ram this is? Do younger Rams typically develop color as they mature? Thanks! __________________ Michael 36g Corner Bow Front Tank Natural Aquascaping (all plastic and silk plants) African Root driftwood, Flag Stone rocks 2 Angels, 3 German Blue Rams, 1 Dwarf Gourami, 3 Otocinclus, 8 Cardinal Tetras, 4 Endler's Livebearers, 1 Ghost Shrimp, 3 Amano Shrimp, and 1 Apple Snail

02-16-2004, 11:57 PM	#3
Madame_X Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 580 Images: 14	Yep, definitely Blue German Rams (microgeophagus ramirezi). They do get more colorful as they get older, particularly if you are fortunate enough to have a M/F pair. Their spawning color is incredible! Good luck with your rams! __________________ 55 Gallon Cichlid Tank--1 Pseudotropheus Polit, 1 Neolamprologus Leleupi, 2 Synodontis Petricolas, 2 Clown Plecos (Starting over after columnaris wiped out most of my cichlids... sigh) 30 Gallon Oceanic Cube, Heavily Planted--3 Bolivian Rams, 3 Marble Hatchets, 2 Black Phantom Tetras, 1 Bristlenose Pleco, 3 Otocinclus, 2 Upside-Down Catfish, 5 Amano Shrimp 29 Gallon, Moderately Planted--1 South American Puffer, 3 Pearl Danios, 1 Peppermint Pleco, 1 Frogmouth Pleco, 1 Pitbull Pleco, 3 Otocinclus Catfish, Ghost Shrimp 12 Gallon Eclipse System--2 Neolamprologus Brichardi

02-17-2004, 12:02 AM	#4
177ichael Aquarium Advice Apprentice Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: California Posts: 33 Images: 13	Thanks for the confirmation on the Blue Rams! The owner thought that these two were most likely female, but could not say for certain because they are young. He mentioned that the females are harder to find in general. I plan on possibly setting up a breeding tank for Rams and giving it a go in the near future. I'm hoping to find a male if these two turn out to be female. Thanks again! __________________ Michael 36g Corner Bow Front Tank Natural Aquascaping (all plastic and silk plants) African Root driftwood, Flag Stone rocks 2 Angels, 3 German Blue Rams, 1 Dwarf Gourami, 3 Otocinclus, 8 Cardinal Tetras, 4 Endler's Livebearers, 1 Ghost Shrimp, 3 Amano Shrimp, and 1 Apple Snail

02-17-2004, 01:33 AM	#5
medge00 Aquarium Advice FINatic Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 540 Images: 7	look like blue rams to me too... look for pink on the belly, that usually indicates a female in all the blue rams i've ever had. given good conditions and a little time, they'll color up rather nicely __________________ That'll do pig, that'll do

02-17-2004, 10:29 AM	#6
grimlock3000 Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: maine Posts: 1,971 Images: 1	This Ram is probably little older than yours, you can see the color starting to increase and the black spreads: In the end you want something like this (not mine): __________________ 26 freshwater 2x Sunburst Platys (2M, 2F) // 3x Neon Tetras (?) // 2x Cherry Barbs (1M, 1F) // 2x YoYo Loaches (?) // 1x Bushy Nose Pleco (M) // 1x Clown Pleco (?) // 15H marine -30# Live Rock -Mixed Snails (Nassarius // Cerith // Astrea // Black Turbo // Mexican Turbo) -8x Blue Leg Hermit Crabs // 1x Banded Serpent Star // 1x Cleaner Shrimp -1x Royal Gramma // 1x Percula Clownfish -2x Mushroom Leather // Metallic Green Star Polyps // Pulsing Xenia // Striped Xenia // Blue Mushroom -Remora + Maxi-Jet 1200 // 2x Maxi-Jet 600 // Maxi-Jet 400 // Visi-Therm Deluxe 50 // Current USA Orbit 2x 40w [acronym:f2db8017b4="Power compact fluorescent"]PC[/acronym:f2db8017b4]

02-16-2004, 11:48 PM	#2
ScottS Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NW Illinois Posts: 205 Images: 7	Look like Blue Rams to me. German Rams are just a strain of Blue Rams that are thought to be of higher quality than those bred in the Far East.

02-17-2004, 08:51 PM	#7
malkore Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Nebraska, USA Posts: 6,540	I find my rams 'drop' their color when stressed. When I added 4 rummy nosed tetra as dither fish, my rams were twice as colorful within 48 hours. I really like these fish. __________________ Visit my aquarium pages - see specs on my tanks, and photos of how they've evolved My other passion: TheNinja 500R - updated 9/18/05

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