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Old 12-12-2013, 01:13 PM   #1
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cichild stock/restocking question

I have had recurring problems with fish dying (about one or two every two weeks). Just happened this morning too and would like some advice about restocking or adjusting my stock. It seems like the fish are going after the weaker one in the tank, and when it dies, they go after the next weaker one.

I tried to restock about six weeks ago by ordering some "assorted cichlids" from livefishdirect but now read that it is bad to have too few females. It looks like my tank is mostly males.

I currently have a 125g tank, a canister filter that I clean every 2 months and do partial water changes every 2 weeks. So far, the water conditions seem to be pretty stable.
- 1 adult male livingstonii
- 2 male pseudoflavus (the second dominant male died this morning as well as a male juvenile ~2.5in long)
- 1 adult male socolofi
- 1 adult male red zebra
- 2 adult yellow tail blue acei (not sure about the sex but would guess female)

and now the juvies:
- 1 male yellow lab ~1.5in
- 1 socolofi (not sure about sex) ~2in
- 1 bumble bee ~1in
- 1 maingano ~1in
- 1 black/greyish fish (not sure the species) ~2in

This morning, I also lost a female livingstonii that was about ~3in long

So the question is: do I have enough fish? (I would guess the answer is probably not) and do you have any suggestion on how to restock. Thanks!
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:50 PM   #2
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I would say in a 125 you could have atleast 20 fish in there.. Spread out the aggression especially with that big of a tank...
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:47 PM   #3
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sounds like you need a lot more rocks and caves for them to hide in also.
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Old 12-12-2013, 08:22 PM   #4
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That too ^^^
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Old 12-12-2013, 08:38 PM   #5
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Thanks for replying! I was just warned by the previous owner of the tank about "falling rocks" so have been afraid to stack things in case the fish run into them and knock rocks down.

Any suggestion on the species to add? Here is a bad pic from my ipad. Hope this helps.
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Old 12-12-2013, 08:45 PM   #6
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Get different shapes of rocks so that you can make a stable mound or you can even glue (silicone or epoxy) a formation together so that there can be no collapse of the mound.
This definitely sounds like a space problem with the fish not having enough homes so the stronger ones protect the few homes that are available. I've even seen PVC pyramids made out of appropriate sized pipe so that many fish would be in homes while not being able to see their neighbors and not taking up much space.

Hope this helps
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Stacking the rocks too high can defenetly be a problem but in your tank you can easily stack them higher... They definetly need more caves and hiding spots. If you make sure the rocks are on the bottom of the tank then you should be fine... But yeah I really suggest more rock...
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Oh and you don't have to worry about them being knocked over by them running into them... The main problem would be them digging under them...
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Ok, will go get more rocks first then try to introduce new fish. I do have a type of plastic grid (egg crate?) on the bottom of the tank and grind the rocks down so they touch the grid. The fish can't dig under them. Will keep you posted.
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Old 12-12-2013, 08:56 PM   #10
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Sounds good!
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