Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Freshwater > Cichlid Discussion
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 05-17-2014, 01:35 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 83
Cichlid ph

I keep ram cichlids and the recommended ph is around 6.5, what's the best ways to lower the ph as mine is about 7.4 from the tap. Thanks!
__________________

__________________
exeori is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2014, 01:43 PM   #2
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Brookster123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Mass
Posts: 19,089
You could add a bunch of driftwood.. I keep rams in the low 7's.. Have you tested your ph right out of the tap vs. what it is in the tanks? As long as you drip acclimate them well they should be fine at that ph..
__________________

__________________
I'm not really here... fell in the tank and my phone is just that smart
Brookster123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2014, 09:49 PM   #3
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Iamtechno13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Thornton, CO
Posts: 245
Driftwood is one way but it does take a long time and it isn't very dramatic change and once you change the water most of those effects are lost. I have driftwood in all of my tanks. The best ways are going to be by using peat in your filter or in your tank or by the use of RO water. There are other ways to do it by using buffers such as discus buffer or acid buffer by Seachem but at this point I prefer the RO water. I use RO water for almost all of my Apisto's as I try to keep it below 6 normally right around 5.6-5.7. Also, depending on your filter you could put some peat in there as that will soften and lower the pH.
__________________
Iamtechno13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2014, 10:09 PM   #4
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Texas
Posts: 288
No intent to hyjack your thread, exeori, but since we're on the subject

I chose my fish for my ph (8.2) because of the ease of water changes etc.

But I wouldn't be against throwing some peat in my cannisters just to soften the water for my plants. How long does the affect of the peat last and where do you put it?

I have two cannisters, a 500 and a 700. I keep ceramic media in the top of both. The 700 draws low and the 500 is being setup to draw higher up in the tank and it will have a inline UV

Would there be gains? How much would you add, where would you add it and would you add it to both?

Thanks
__________________
MeCasa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2014, 11:10 PM   #5
Aquarium Advice Regular
 
hsojkrieger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 75
i wouldnt worry about it they will adapt to it, ive had rams in the same ph for a few years and they were fine. i feel that consistency is more important. just my opinion, hope you figure it all out
__________________
hsojkrieger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2014, 11:17 PM   #6
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Iamtechno13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Thornton, CO
Posts: 245
Well I don't use Canister filters but I know that Fluval makes a Peat Granule that I'm sure you could just put in the proper bag for your filter and just put it in there. It will stain the water as it does release tannins and some other beneficial stuff. You could even put it under the substrate but probably easier as you're setting the tank up. Depending on tank size and water flow and how much you use I'm sure will all affect how much it changes the water. Letting leaves such as Oak, Almond, ect.. break down in the tank will also affect the pH by lowering it.
__________________
Iamtechno13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2014, 11:22 PM   #7
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Brookster123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Mass
Posts: 19,089
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iamtechno13 View Post
Driftwood is one way but it does take a long time and it isn't very dramatic change and once you change the water most of those effects are lost. I have driftwood in all of my tanks. The best ways are going to be by using peat in your filter or in your tank or by the use of RO water. There are other ways to do it by using buffers such as discus buffer or acid buffer by Seachem but at this point I prefer the RO water. I use RO water for almost all of my Apisto's as I try to keep it below 6 normally right around 5.6-5.7. Also, depending on your filter you could put some peat in there as that will soften and lower the pH.
you must have to change water like crazy with that low a ph??? Your essentially keeping a stagnant tank with no active bacteria to aid in processing fish waste?? Am I wrong?
__________________
I'm not really here... fell in the tank and my phone is just that smart
Brookster123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2014, 11:45 PM   #8
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Texas
Posts: 288
Thanks for the reply Iamtechno13. After initially digesting all the info and advice i could I decided to leave my water alone and buy fish/plants that would survive within these parameters.

Then I see a thread like this and start re-adjusting and re-evaluating my decision (mostly because I think the German Rams are magnificent fish and I'd like to own one). But when I look at the big picture, I'm just going to accept that a Ram would not be comfortable in my water and quit whining about it.

Luckily, there's a lot of beautiful options in my ph range. But the rams are truly beautiful fish

Thanks
MeCasa
__________________
MeCasa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2014, 12:22 AM   #9
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Iamtechno13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Thornton, CO
Posts: 245
Typically one maybe twice a week. Why would it be a stagnant tank with no active bacteria?
__________________
Iamtechno13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2014, 12:26 AM   #10
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Brookster123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Mass
Posts: 19,089
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iamtechno13 View Post
Typically one maybe twice a week. Why would it be a stagnant tank with no active bacteria?
everything I've learned here states that bb will stall out in a ph lower than 6.4-6.2.. I know so e apisto's natural habitats are below 6.. How??
__________________

__________________
I'm not really here... fell in the tank and my phone is just that smart
Brookster123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cichlid, ich

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
dwarf cichlids:Agassizi cichlid and Cockatoo cichlid monkeys Freshwater & Brackish - Getting Started 2 05-24-2012 06:31 PM
hikari cichlid gold vs tetra cichlid jumbo sticks sayan Cichlid Discussion 8 03-30-2012 03:58 PM
SA/CA Cichlid or African Cichlid? rcherry Cichlid Discussion 1 03-04-2011 07:56 AM
what makes a cichlid a cichlid? DepotFish Cichlid Discussion 2 01-19-2007 06:21 PM
Transforming South Am. Cichlid into an African Cichlid? goalorientation Cichlid Discussion 18 06-15-2006 04:39 AM







» Photo Contest Winners








All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.