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Old 09-20-2011, 10:14 PM   #1
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Question Discus breathing heavy/hard

I have a tank with 3 smaller Discus in it. One of them appears to be breathing very heavy. Gills wide open sucking through a lot of water. I just did a 50% water change tonight because I found one of my small clown loaches dead, and the tank needed it anyway. I'm wondering if this might be due to the WC or if it might be gill flukes.

If flukes what are my treatment options? What do I look for? This tank has two NEXX canister filters on it, bubble stones, is planted and also has lemon tetras and rummy nose tetras.

I've had another clown loach die in here but I'm assuming both are from the discus attacking them because the first had a wound. I also lost one discus that was chewed on by a BN pleco I had in there (removed now) and then was attacked by the other discus.

Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrate: 5ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
pH: 7.4

I've had them in the tank for about 20 days.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:18 PM   #2
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Change water right now amd look your temperature! Thats the first thing, 30 to 50%
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:21 PM   #3
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Change water right now amd look your temperature! Thats the first thing, 30 to 50%
Temp is 85, I just did a WC of 50% and parameters are good. I should do it again? If the WC was the problem won't this just compound the problem? Not arguing just making sure.
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Oh water already change!

Medecine are hard on tetra so be cautious!

Is your filter clean??

Do you use any product? If yes, what products?

What temp?
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Is the other fish breathing hard??
Any kh and gh test??
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:29 PM   #6
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I don't have anything to test kh and gh with. All of the other fish including the other discus are fine and happy as can be. I did dose the tank with Prime when I did the WC. I also cleaned the filters in the canisters about 4 days ago so they should be fine.

Again the temp is 85 degrees.

Crud, now I can't find the fish that was breathing hard, it is hiding somewhere in the plants. My discus change color and blend in with the background.
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If its gill flukes i think its gram + so tetracycline and/or erythromicine are good for it.
And a its fungal base infection, malachite green with formalin use without light can help.
But its hard on plants, tetra, catfish and you cycle!!

If you have a smaller tank its better as an hospital tank. if you cant, go for half dose to help!
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If its gill flukes i think its gram + so tetracycline and/or erythromicine are good for it.
And a its fungal base infection, malachite green with formalin use without light can help.
But its hard on plants, tetra, catfish and you cycle!!

If you have a smaller tank its better as an hospital tank. if you cant, go for half dose to help!
Okay, thanks a ton! I do have a another tank I can put him in but I'll have to bring the temp up.
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Have you noticed any bullying? With only 3 I worry he might be getting picked on. I have 5 in a grow out BB tank and I need to add a few more for the little guy in mine to get a break...
Could be stress related.
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The same thing happened to my discus when I first got them, lost a few of them randomly to heavy breathing followed by death a day or two later. I tried treating with prazipro and maracyn but it didn't seem to change anything. Hope you get it squared away, they really can be delicate fish.
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