Finally found Acei, question though - Aquarium Advice

Alvarez · 01-08-2006, 09:11 PM

The [acronym:7f25595b4b="Local Fish Store"]LFS[/acronym:7f25595b4b] finally got some Acei in stock only thing is the owner said they have not gotten color yet as they are so young. They have a 14 day return policy which if they don't get color I will be bringing them back.

However is it normal for the Acei to be a light grey to sometimes darker grey with stripes and no yellow in the tail (you can sometimes see the tips shimmer a white to somewhat yellow)?

TankGirl · 01-08-2006, 09:22 PM

Yes, it is normal. Many cichlids of both genders will have female/drab coloration as juveniles to keep adults from beating them up as potential competition.

The problem when buying juvies is that you can't determine gender, and they will need as long as a month or so in your tank before you know what you have. Two weeks might not be enough time to determine gender. That is why often we will get 5 or 6 juveniles hoping to get the combination we want, then returning the rest later, or putting them in another tank.

I doubt you would have trouble selling/trading/returning acei once they are showing their adult coloration, but I don't know how the market is in your area.

Alvarez · 01-08-2006, 09:24 PM

**Fishyfanatic** · 01-08-2006, 09:25 PM

They should have SOME coloration. BUT, the stress of shipment could have caused enough stress for them to lose their coloration. Just make sure that they are definately Acei's. Some stores don't know the difference between Mbuna's as juvi's. Congrats on the find!

Alvarez · 01-08-2006, 09:26 PM

Those look to be Acei though correct? The [acronym:4cade33a24="Local Fish Store"]LFS[/acronym:4cade33a24] owner ASSURED me they were but I have seen young Acei pics online and they were gorgeous fish and had color... he assured me these would have the same coloration in time.

They are VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY docile and the juvi Kenyi will chase them a bit but I have a ton of hiding spots. Someone last week said the juvi Kenyi prolly won't be a problem also.

Alvarez · 01-08-2006, 10:00 PM

Do they look like Acei juvi?

**Fishyfanatic** · 01-08-2006, 10:06 PM

It does not look like an Acei to me. Even Juvi's have coloration and those do not appear to have coloration at all. Plus, the face appears to be more of a Hap than an Mbuna. But maybe I'm wrong. This is what a juvi Acei should look like.

Lonewolfblue · 01-08-2006, 10:14 PM

Looks more like a juvi hap to me too.

Alvarez · 01-08-2006, 11:00 PM

well crap

malkore · 01-09-2006, 10:57 AM

They don't look like acei to me either.

I'm gonna see if Travis will come look at these photos. He breeds cichlids, and knows his acei.

01-08-2006, 09:11 PM	#1
Alvarez Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brownsburg, IN Posts: 185	Finally found Acei, question though The [acronym:7f25595b4b="Local Fish Store"]LFS[/acronym:7f25595b4b] finally got some Acei in stock only thing is the owner said they have not gotten color yet as they are so young. They have a 14 day return policy which if they don't get color I will be bringing them back. However is it normal for the Acei to be a light grey to sometimes darker grey with stripes and no yellow in the tail (you can sometimes see the tips shimmer a white to somewhat yellow)?

01-08-2006, 09:22 PM	#2
TankGirl Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richmond VA Posts: 8,279 Images: 16	Yes, it is normal. Many cichlids of both genders will have female/drab coloration as juveniles to keep adults from beating them up as potential competition. The problem when buying juvies is that you can't determine gender, and they will need as long as a month or so in your tank before you know what you have. Two weeks might not be enough time to determine gender. That is why often we will get 5 or 6 juveniles hoping to get the combination we want, then returning the rest later, or putting them in another tank. I doubt you would have trouble selling/trading/returning acei once they are showing their adult coloration, but I don't know how the market is in your area. __________________ TG Central Virginians click here and join the Regional Forum! View My Gallery Here

01-08-2006, 09:24 PM	#3
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01-08-2006, 09:25 PM	#4
Fishyfanatic Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,148 Images: 15	They should have SOME coloration. BUT, the stress of shipment could have caused enough stress for them to lose their coloration. Just make sure that they are definately Acei's. Some stores don't know the difference between Mbuna's as juvi's. Congrats on the find! __________________ Vote for Aquarium Advice 10 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid Fry 29 Gallon Community 55 Gallon Community 55 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid Fry 150 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid

01-08-2006, 10:00 PM	#6
Alvarez Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brownsburg, IN Posts: 185	Do they look like Acei juvi? __________________ http://www.ramzmusic.com/pics/alvarezsig.jpg

01-08-2006, 09:26 PM	#5
Alvarez Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brownsburg, IN Posts: 185	Those look to be Acei though correct? The [acronym:4cade33a24="Local Fish Store"]LFS[/acronym:4cade33a24] owner ASSURED me they were but I have seen young Acei pics online and they were gorgeous fish and had color... he assured me these would have the same coloration in time. They are VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY docile and the juvi Kenyi will chase them a bit but I have a ton of hiding spots. Someone last week said the juvi Kenyi prolly won't be a problem also.

01-08-2006, 10:06 PM	#7
Fishyfanatic Aquarium Advice Addict Community Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,148 Images: 15	It does not look like an Acei to me. Even Juvi's have coloration and those do not appear to have coloration at all. Plus, the face appears to be more of a Hap than an Mbuna. But maybe I'm wrong. This is what a juvi Acei should look like. __________________ Vote for Aquarium Advice 10 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid Fry 29 Gallon Community 55 Gallon Community 55 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid Fry 150 Gallon Lake Malawi Cichlid

01-08-2006, 10:14 PM	#8
Lonewolfblue Planted Geek Community Mentor Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wenatchee, WA Posts: 7,832 Images: 7	Looks more like a juvi hap to me too. __________________ 26G Medium Planted Community - 65W CF Lighting - Emperor 280 Bio-Wheel - Established Feb 2004 55G Aggressive Community - Filstar XP3 - Established Dec 2005 75G Heavily Planted - Pressurized CO2, 520W Lighting, Filstar XP3 with spraybar - Established Feb 2006 29G Planted - 130W Lighting, Filstar XP2 with spraybar - Established May 2006 5 10G Tanks - Various setups - Tanks Established May-Sep 2006. 3 currently empty. 5.5G Crypt/Java Fern Tank - Established Oct 2006 My 29G Thread : http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=78469 My 75G Thread : http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=70764 My 75G Makeover Thread: http://www.aquariumadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=87691

01-08-2006, 11:00 PM	#9
Alvarez Aquarium Advice Activist Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brownsburg, IN Posts: 185	well crap __________________ http://www.ramzmusic.com/pics/alvarezsig.jpg

01-09-2006, 10:57 AM	#10
malkore Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Nebraska, USA Posts: 6,540	They don't look like acei to me either. I'm gonna see if Travis will come look at these photos. He breeds cichlids, and knows his acei. __________________ Visit my aquarium pages - see specs on my tanks, and photos of how they've evolved My other passion: TheNinja 500R - updated 9/18/05

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