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10-10-2005, 10:38 AM
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#1 | | Aquarium Advice Regular
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada
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| Has anyone ever kept oscars with bichirs?
I feel sorry for the oscars at Walmart (yes, yes, I know, but it's all I have here) and think they are beautiful. Knowing they grow quite large, I thought perhaps I could keep two of them in a 375 with several smaller species of bichirs. They bichirs are #1 on my list (the tank is being made for bichirs with bichir needs in mind) but, if oscars were compatible, what do you think of adding two oscars to this tank?
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375 cutsom - on hold indefinitely
55 FW - cycling
44 bowfront FW - 3 red cap orandas, 3 fantails, 3 golden dojo loachesone sailfin pleco
40L #1 FW - empty
40L #2 FW - empty
20 tall FW - adopted from my mother - 3 golden dojo loaches, 1 sailfin pleco, 4 assorted tetras and one mystery fish
10 long #1 FW - male betta, 4 peppered cories, 4 bronze cories, sailfin pleco, and some snails
10 long #2 FW - male betta, 1 praecox rainbow, 7 albino cories, sailfin pleco, and some snails
5.5 bowfront FW - 3 ADF's
8 year old flat-coated retriever, 3 year old mutt (looks like a small brindle lab) and a 6 month old miniature poodle (they're pets too, right?)
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10-10-2005, 09:30 PM
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#2 | | Aquarium Advice Addict
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Garland,Texas
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| Personally I don't keep large, potentially aggressive cichlids with my bichirs but there have been a couple of instances in the past where I have kept bichirs for some time with pike cichlids (Crenicichla sp.) without too many problems. It is always a risk adding cichlids to a tank with relatively non-aggressive fish like bichirs but if the Oscars are currently small then you might be able to get away with it as long as the bichirs have some size to them.
Even a small Oscar might look at a smaller bichir as a snack.
-Joe
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Loaches: Botia almorhae, B. kubotai, B. striata, Noemacheilus triangularis, Schistura sp.aff.nicholsi, S. vinciguerre, Sinibotia robusta, Vaillantella maassi
Bichirs: Polypterus senegalus, P. senegalus (albino), P. delhezi, P. sp. 'Congo', P. palmas polli, P.weeksii, P. ornatipinnis, P. palmas buettikoferi, P. retropinnis, P. endlicheri congicus, Polypterus bichir lapradei, P. palmas palmas, Erpetoichthys calabaricus
Anabantids: Ctenopoma acutirostre, Ct. ocellatum, Ct. oxyrhynchum, Ct. kingsleyae, Microctenopoma ansorgii, Mct. fasciolatum, Trichogaster trichopterus, Belontia signata, B. hasselti, Anabas testudineus, Macropodus opercularis, Betta splendens
Catfish: Dekeyseria sp. (L-052)Sturiosoma panamense, Hypancistrus inspector (L-201), Synodontis eupterus, Synodontis nigrita, Synodontis brichardi, Synodontis soloni, Anaspidoglanis macrostoma
Barbs/Rasboras: Capoeta tetrazona, Rasbora borapetensis, Labeo cyclorhynchus
Tetras: Phenacogrammus interruptus
Other: Xenomystus nigri, Papyrocranus afer, Pantodon buchholzi, Oxymormyrus boulengeri, Protopterus annectens andPhractolaemus ansorgei | |
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10-11-2005, 12:25 AM
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#3 | | Aquarium Advice Freak
Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kansas City, KS
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| How fast do bichirs usually grow. I got my oscar almost a month ago and he grew from a little under 3" to 4" already. I thought about getting a bichir... but when my cichlids are full grown ill probably be stocked full  Oscars have big mouthes.... so whatever they can fit in it around they dont really care how long they are I don't think lol...
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125gallon - 3 Giant Danios - 1 7" Jack Dempsey - 1 5½" Green Terror - 1 9" Lutino Oscar
65RR - SW - 30g Sump w/fuge - 40lbs MI LR 30lbs Base - 4-5"Sand Bed - 2 false black perculas, 1 six line wrasse, 1 peppermint shrimp, 6 zebra hermits, 6 blue leg hermits, 6 nassarius snails, 6 astrea snails
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10-11-2005, 03:39 AM
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#4 | | Aquarium Advice Addict
Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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| Most oscar + bichir tanks that I have heard about have ended badly for the bichirs, so I would not attempt it.
Bichirs grow explosively....Most of the senegals and ornates that I have bred have gone from 1cm (½") to 10cm (4") in just 11-14 weeks.....and then from there to 20cm (8") in just another 12-16 weeks. Lots of quality foods and plenty of water changes will give you similar results.
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10-11-2005, 02:00 PM
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#5 | | Aquarium Advice Regular
Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada
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| Thanks for the tips guys -- as cute as the oscars are, I HAVE TO HAVE THE BICHIRS AND WON'T RISK THEM so, bichirs and raphael cats it will be and that's all.
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"Fish are friends - not food" Bruce in A Shark's Tale (except for pickerel of course!)
375 cutsom - on hold indefinitely
55 FW - cycling
44 bowfront FW - 3 red cap orandas, 3 fantails, 3 golden dojo loachesone sailfin pleco
40L #1 FW - empty
40L #2 FW - empty
20 tall FW - adopted from my mother - 3 golden dojo loaches, 1 sailfin pleco, 4 assorted tetras and one mystery fish
10 long #1 FW - male betta, 4 peppered cories, 4 bronze cories, sailfin pleco, and some snails
10 long #2 FW - male betta, 1 praecox rainbow, 7 albino cories, sailfin pleco, and some snails
5.5 bowfront FW - 3 ADF's
8 year old flat-coated retriever, 3 year old mutt (looks like a small brindle lab) and a 6 month old miniature poodle (they're pets too, right?)
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10-11-2005, 02:07 PM
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#6 | | Aquarium Advice Freak
Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kansas City, KS
Posts: 458
| *Jealous* Good luck with the huge tank and the huge fish!   and i keep thinking hmm this 125 gal tank is big lol
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125gallon - 3 Giant Danios - 1 7" Jack Dempsey - 1 5½" Green Terror - 1 9" Lutino Oscar
65RR - SW - 30g Sump w/fuge - 40lbs MI LR 30lbs Base - 4-5"Sand Bed - 2 false black perculas, 1 six line wrasse, 1 peppermint shrimp, 6 zebra hermits, 6 blue leg hermits, 6 nassarius snails, 6 astrea snails
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