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Old 01-24-2014, 12:08 AM   #1
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Occelatus ID please

I got this guy in a group of pearlie occelatus (l. meleagris) from Dave's Fish last summer. He started out looking pretty similar to the rest but over time has been getting more and more light colored while the others have had those pearl spots on their sides and stayed much darker.

And worse, he has been a pearlie killer. Every time I added one or more to the tank, over the months, he's gone after them like the plague. Some survived. Some didn't. It's taken me a while to figure it out, much too long in fact, because I assumed it was just male territorial jousting, but I think I must be dealing with conspecific aggression, thanks to a mislabeled fish from Dave. Is he a gold occie?
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Old 01-24-2014, 12:28 AM   #2
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Brevis?
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Old 01-24-2014, 12:31 AM   #3
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He definitely has the same exact facial structure and body shape as the others.
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Old 01-24-2014, 07:09 PM   #4
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100% not a gold ocellatus, those are gold. Looks like a brevis. Anyway, a colony of established shellies typically won't welcome newcomers too kindly. My dominant male multi, and more so my females, have killed one newcomer and shunned a male from one of the spawns. I don't even try to add more
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His colony is pearl occies, but this oddball kills all the new pearls. Which i find is very odd
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:00 AM   #6
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And over time he's picked off the old ones too because he grew faster.

The question now is, do I relocate him to somebody else's tank and try again with the pearlies, who I really wanted to begin with, or do I put them to the back of my mind as a lost opportunity and go with the brevis, even though they're plainer looking, getting a few more to establish a small colony.

Or, do I listen to the advice of folks here, and take it as something that was going to happen inevitably anyway when the peacocks get bigger.
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Not sure, personally Id go with the pearlies
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:16 AM   #8
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I do love those guys. I wish I'd trusted my instincts five months ago when the kids named the brevis "black hands" because he was colored differently than the rest of my original group of pearlies.
(Dark pectoral fins were his most obvious difference). But I read that there could be color variations and I assumed that was one of them.

$100+ of dead pearlies later, I feel like fish stores shouldn't be *allowed* to sell fish that weren't ordered.
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I say pull him from tank and reset order

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Old 01-25-2014, 11:25 AM   #10
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Shellies can be tough, I'd say rehome the brute, and try again, just make sure to keep an eye on those peacocks, I know I hit on that a lot, just wanna make sure you don't have to go through this all again

My advice for this time around is buy your whole colony at once, they will bond better as a colony, then let them fill in the rest with spawns (if the others don't eat the fry that is lol). My Tanganyikan bullhead cats keep sneaking into the shells at night and gobbling up any fry
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