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Old 07-02-2013, 01:58 PM   #1
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Pike Cichlid Aggression

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I currently have two Pike Cichlids in my 150 gallon tank. One is a male at 8" and was sold to me as a "Purple Pike Cichlid" which I know does not exist as labeled, but being a huge Pike Cichlid species fan recognized the fish at 100$ as a probable steal. I am waiting right now for him to come out in the light for a good photo opportunity to ask your opinions as well, but I think he is a crenicichla Tapjos Red sp. due to the beautiful deep red dorsal fin and shining body. Anyway, due to my habit of purchasing fish I believe will work out together without doing the research I need to I purchased a female Tapajos red sp. who is about 6'". Although, she is a female I now think from seeing how exquisite her golden coloring is that he is probably a different species of crenicichla but have no idea what. Point is they both look amazing together, problem is although I knew many crenicichla have a reputation for being tremendously aggresive fish, I had my male for over 6 months with a tigrinus and other bass and he never bothered them at all. However, I didn't realize the fact that they are known to bully females to death because they are so into them all the time. This is obviously a problem. I have a shelter set up for the female she stays in that he cant get into at all, but I hate that my beautiful lady only comes out maybe three times a day for a minute or so and is constantly living in hiding. Question is though, are they a species where I could add another or two more females and have a harem situation where aggression is spread out type of deal? Or would he probably just kill all of them all etc.? any advice appreciated thanks
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:01 PM   #2
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Got some pics pretty dark though, can anyone ID? When he is in light and excited he also gets a thick black lateral line that runs throughout his whole head and down his entire length...
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Old 07-02-2013, 02:18 PM   #3
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Atabapo Fire Red Pike Cichlid. Beautiful fish
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:18 PM   #4
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seems to be right thanks! got some better shots in the light tonight anyone have personal experience with these or similar crenicichla?
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Old 07-03-2013, 11:14 AM   #5
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seems to be right thanks! got some better shots in the light tonight anyone have personal experience with these or similar crenicichla?
Pm 5x5 on here, pikes are his specialty
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Old 07-04-2013, 12:06 AM   #6
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If I'm not mistaken its a Crenicichla sp. "Red Atabapo" not sure if its I or II, 5x5 would know for sure which form/location it is.

I'm not a huge fan of those Snakey fish but that's a nice looking one for sure
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yea im pretty confident now that it is a Crenicichla lugubris Atabapo and not the Crencichla sp. Atabapo I or II but a beautiful fish yes.
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yea im pretty confident now that it is a Crenicichla lugubris Atabapo and not the Crencichla sp. Atabapo I or II but a beautiful fish yes.
I believe Mog is correct that it is the Crenicichla sp. "Red Atabapo 1" based on the markings. Typically sold as the red fire pike.

Lugubris is both a group and a species. While, the atabapo is a member of the lugubris group, it's not part of the species name. I'm unaware of any species name "lugubris atabapo" existing.
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Thanks, what kind of crenicichla is your profile photo of?
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Thanks, what kind of crenicichla is your profile photo of?
Crenicichla marmorata. Another brazilian beast from the lugubris group.
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