Ram ID

[Starka]

Hey guys!

I was told this was a bolvilian ram but its a blue german, right? Is it male or female? He/she is soo pretty I might think about getting me some.
Sorry for the flashy pics he wouldn't sit still for me
Thanks everyone!

 

[Jason7894561230]

Yes thats a german blue ram alright, he is gorgeaus!

 

[Fishie]

Yes thats a german blue ram alright, he is gorgeaus!

+1 pretty fishie!

 

[Starka]

Thank you!
He/she is a trouble maker. Thru and thru.
I QT for two weeks no problem then I put it in my big tank and gave everyone ick :/
After that she/he has been happy ever since. About two months now.
Though I've tried to sex it and I can't tell it seems to have both.

 

[bs6749]

That's definitely a blue ram (Microgeophagus ramirezi) and I'm 100% sure it is a male. He looks very nice and is a quality ram. Nice find.

 

[bs6749]

Also note the appearance of black on the edges of the pelvic fins. Many people assume that this feature is only seen on females, but I've often said otherwise and have seen numerous examples, including here once again, where males of this species exhibit such coloration. Nice, healthy looking black spots on the body too. It is very well pronounced here and typically it isn't seen in such a bold display.

 

[Harryhorse]

Its a male .I have two females and had a male,very nice looking gbr

 

[Ardynas]

Looks like a male to me too.

This is what my boy looks like.

 

[Starka]

Also note the appearance of black on the edges of the pelvic fins. Many people assume that this feature is only seen on females, but I've often said otherwise and have seen numerous examples, including here once again, where males of this species exhibit such coloration. Nice, healthy looking black spots on the body too. It is very well pronounced here and typically it isn't seen in such a bold display.

Thank you. That is what was getting confused. To me I thought it was a male because it looked like he was strutting his stuff, but the black on the fins were throwing me off that and he didn't have that rosy color. Thank you for clearing that up for me
How can you tell its male?

 

[Starka]

Looks like a male to me too.

This is what my boy looks like.

Wow he's nice!

 

[Harryhorse]

Thank you. That is what was getting confused. To me I thought it was a male because it looked like he was strutting his stuff, but the black on the fins were throwing me off that and he didn't have that rosy color. Thank you for clearing that up for me
How can you tell its male?

His black dot is not see through and males have a slight blue on there bottom fin,

 

[bs6749]

How can you tell its male?

Many things. First of all, I noticed that he is of good stock and a fish that size is male when it comes to Microgeophagus ramirezi. Secondly, the length of his pelvic fins. If you imagine them folding against the belly, they would extend past the start of the anal fin, which is almost never seen in females. A closer look at the ends of the pelvic fins shows that they taper off into thin points, which is more predominant in males. Again, with quality rams, had you had a female she would have pink on her belly and this one did not. Also females are usually slightly more plump in the area along the belly just behind where the yellow color stops, indicating egg formation/holding. Prominent dorsal rays are also usually only seen in males.

Males and females both have the same colors to their fins, and both can have blue spots over the black circles. There is absolutely no guarantee that blue spots over a black circle indicates that the fish is a female, especially in bloodlines that are far from wild stock.

 

[Starka]

Cool! Now I at least know what to look for incase I want a female, which I am still debating on.
Thanks everyone