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Old 10-02-2006, 08:53 PM   #1
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ram ID help

I bought a tiny little "bolivian ram" today which in the store was labelled as blue ram, but i knew it was bolivian. It has the red eye, with a black line running throught it, and a golden belly. It had red lining around every fin which looked quite beautiful. Only 6 bucks, so i got one and i have it in my 5gal for now until i can find a heater for my 10gal.

Once i got it home it looks more like an african cichlid(like a convict or something) instead of a ram. all the colours are gone, now it is just gray and black stripes. Here is a pic:



What is it? lol, i'm still hopeing it is a ram, but if it is a different type of cichlid it is going back.
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Old 10-02-2006, 09:11 PM   #2
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Old 10-02-2006, 10:16 PM   #3
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Not sure what it is (definitely not a bolivian), but it looks like a type of apisto. If you got a mated pair, I'd keep it for sure.

Could be this male
Or this female


I didn't go through that whole list, but the red eyes are throwing me off. GBRs are the only ones I've ever seen with red eyes. Sift through these and see if you find something similar. I'm a little tired or I'd do it for you. Like I said, I wouldn't return it just yet. Neat find.

Or, it could just be bad lighting and a stressed German Blue Ram. We'll see what others say.
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Could be an Apisto or a wild-type M. ramirezii, but it is difficult to be sure with that photo...can you manage a better shot?
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Old 10-03-2006, 06:36 AM   #5
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i'll try, i just got it in the tank when i took the shot so it is very shy. I'll try to get another one later. Thanks for your help so far.
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Old 10-03-2006, 10:16 AM   #6
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i do not think it is a bolivian, probaly a GBR or some type of Apisto
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...and as luck would have it, your link is filtered out so I cannot view it. Can you upload it from your computer directly onto the page as an attachment?
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Old 10-03-2006, 03:12 PM   #8
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well, it was labelled as a blue, and it is showing flecks of blue without. Maybe they were right, its just that in the store they look IDENTICAL to a largwer, full grwon bolvian they had. They had no blue in them, a gold head, no striples, and red fins, now it looks so different! And the pink stomach wasnt there either. It looked ideantical to this fish in the store: http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...erPond/ram.jpg

This fish is very shy so far but is getting better, it has been really hard to photograph.
sorry for the blurryness of these pics.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...ftank020-1.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...softank017.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...softank015.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...ftank014-1.jpg

I thought maybe links would be better seeing as how the last pic was filtered out

What do you think it is now?
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That looks like a really stressed GBR (hence the lack of coloration). Has it (she) eaten yet? Her belly is really small.
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she has been picking at algea, i am feeding her fior the first time tonight. Might just do it right now.

Update: i fed her some frozen brine shrimp ans she scarfed down about ten. Seemed to love them. She looks very nice, and the stomach is filled our almost instantly. I'm so excited
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