Setup advise - Aquarium Advice

JDogg · 10-14-2005, 08:15 PM

ok i want to set up a 30 [acronym:3e01c47817="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:3e01c47817] for my pair of Convicts

i want have a sandy bottom (any advise on this? best way to clean, best filters,....)

i also want to try the fish-less cycle method, any ideas/ experience with this? how long does it usually take.

currently the fish are only an inch long and inhabit a 10 [acronym:3e01c47817="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:3e01c47817].

thanks

Toirtis · 10-14-2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JDogg

ok i want to set up a 30 [acronym:c99ec2068b="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:c99ec2068b] for my pair of Convicts

i want have a sandy bottom (any advise on this? best way to clean, best filters,....)

Aquaclear works great...especially with a pre-filter to keep sand particles out. Cleaning is as usual, but 'hover' your gravel vac a couple of inches above the sand bed.

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i also want to try the fish-less cycle method, any ideas/ experience with this? how long does it usually take.

We have a nice article on that:
http://www.aquariumadvice.com/showqu...q=2&fldAuto=15

JDogg · 10-14-2005, 08:51 PM

this article involved saltwater, does it work the same in freshwater?

i heard someplace about adding a cup of clear ammonia and then sucking some bacterial out of a established tank and adding all that to the new tank...????

thanks

Blazeherd2306 · 10-14-2005, 08:53 PM

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this article involved saltwater, does it work the same in freshwater?

yes

Toirtis · 10-14-2005, 08:55 PM

Using the shrimp works for both. Using clear (pure. non-sudsey) ammonia works, too.....as does transferring bacteria....have you an established tank to transfer from, and how would you intend to 'suck some bacteria' out?

Jchillin · 10-14-2005, 08:55 PM

The process is the same for both [acronym:0deb4b0ed4="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:0deb4b0ed4] and [acronym:0deb4b0ed4="Saltwater"]SW[/acronym:0deb4b0ed4].

You can use established media from another tank (filter media, gravel, decorations). You can slowly add fish with this method.

Dosing pure ammonia also works, so does fish food. True Value hardware sells the pure ammonia.

rich311k · 10-14-2005, 08:57 PM

Are you planning to move the whole ten gallon tank and take it down?

JDogg · 10-14-2005, 09:02 PM

i have an established 28 [acronym:7bdda9f50a="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:7bdda9f50a], i figured next time i cleaned it i would put a couple gallons of the crap in the gravel into the new tank. that has to be packed with bacteria.

JDogg · 10-14-2005, 09:03 PM

the tank will probaly get new residents, or maybe tanken down. depending on the space in my new classroom.

Blazeherd2306 · 10-14-2005, 09:05 PM

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i have an established 28 [acronym:bea4e8afc4="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:bea4e8afc4], i figured next time i cleaned it i would put a couple gallons of the crap in the gravel into the new tank

Just take the gravel out of your 28 [acronym:bea4e8afc4="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:bea4e8afc4] and add it to the new tank to seed it.

10-14-2005, 08:15 PM	#1
JDogg Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northfield, MN Posts: 2,221 Images: 12	Setup advise ok i want to set up a 30 [acronym:3e01c47817="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:3e01c47817] for my pair of Convicts i want have a sandy bottom (any advise on this? best way to clean, best filters,....) i also want to try the fish-less cycle method, any ideas/ experience with this? how long does it usually take. currently the fish are only an inch long and inhabit a 10 [acronym:3e01c47817="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:3e01c47817]. thanks __________________ Follow my adventures into the land of Nano Reefs HERE http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSC01648.jpg

10-14-2005, 08:51 PM	#3
JDogg Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northfield, MN Posts: 2,221 Images: 12	this article involved saltwater, does it work the same in freshwater? i heard someplace about adding a cup of clear ammonia and then sucking some bacterial out of a established tank and adding all that to the new tank...???? thanks __________________ Follow my adventures into the land of Nano Reefs HERE http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSC01648.jpg

10-14-2005, 08:55 PM	#5
Toirtis Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,768	Using the shrimp works for both. Using clear (pure. non-sudsey) ammonia works, too.....as does transferring bacteria....have you an established tank to transfer from, and how would you intend to 'suck some bacteria' out? __________________ G. A. Christian Bilou, Zoologist/Writer Founder/Director, Reptile Rescue Alberta Vice-President, Calgary Aquarium Society www.calgaryaquariumsociety.com Polypterid/Primitive Fish/Ctenopoma/Catfish Fanatic 62 Aquariums, 2200+ total gallons, Aquarist since 1971.

10-14-2005, 08:55 PM	#6
Jchillin Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York, NY (The Big Apple) Posts: 12,970 Images: 47	The process is the same for both [acronym:0deb4b0ed4="Freshwater"]FW[/acronym:0deb4b0ed4] and [acronym:0deb4b0ed4="Saltwater"]SW[/acronym:0deb4b0ed4]. You can use established media from another tank (filter media, gravel, decorations). You can slowly add fish with this method. Dosing pure ammonia also works, so does fish food. True Value hardware sells the pure ammonia. __________________ _________________________________

10-14-2005, 09:02 PM	#8
JDogg Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northfield, MN Posts: 2,221 Images: 12	i have an established 28 [acronym:7bdda9f50a="Gallon"]gal[/acronym:7bdda9f50a], i figured next time i cleaned it i would put a couple gallons of the crap in the gravel into the new tank. that has to be packed with bacteria. __________________ Follow my adventures into the land of Nano Reefs HERE http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSC01648.jpg

10-14-2005, 08:57 PM	#7
rich311k Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 8,972 Images: 35	Are you planning to move the whole ten gallon tank and take it down?

10-14-2005, 09:03 PM	#9
JDogg Aquarium Advice Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Northfield, MN Posts: 2,221 Images: 12	the tank will probaly get new residents, or maybe tanken down. depending on the space in my new classroom. __________________ Follow my adventures into the land of Nano Reefs HERE http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n...f/DSC01648.jpg

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