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Old 11-30-2015, 10:37 AM   #1
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Too many cichlids in a 29gal?

I have a 29gal (30" long) community tank with 7 tetras and 6 danios, 1 betta(can be moved if this is a problem)

I want to add(slowly!):
2 rams
2 kribs
2 apistos cockatoo
2 apistos borelli


Would this be too many space wise?


It's heavily planted with 7 caves( 4 Terracotta pots, 1 half pot, 1 coconut cave, 1 large pvc)

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Any more than one of those pairs will be a nightmare. A 29 gallon is just a taller 20 long, same amount of territory space.

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What? Just 1 pair? That's seems a bit less.....

I would think at least 2 pairs would be fine, Rams in the open, apistos by the caves....

Do kribs need/use caves? Are they more top or lower level fish?
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What? Just 1 pair? That's seems a bit less.....

I would think at least 2 pairs would be fine, Rams in the open, apistos by the caves....

Do kribs need/use caves? Are they more top or lower level fish?
I had two pairs of rams in a 20 high and it took less than 3 days for one pair to kill the other female. Spawning kribs are a lot nastier than rams. With less than double the territory space of a 20h I wouldn't do more than a single pair. You could try 2 if you're feeling lucky.

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I guess that could happen, but apistos and Rams should ignore each other, right?

I think I'll drop the kribs from the list, and I'll start with 1 pair of Rams, 1 pair of apistos, and then see what happens...
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I believe overstocking is probably one of the most common aquarium problems encountered. I've done it myself, probably everyone has at one time or another.
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I guess that could happen, but apistos and Rams should ignore each other, right?

I think I'll drop the kribs from the list, and I'll start with 1 pair of Rams, 1 pair of apistos, and then see what happens...
I don't have any experience with apistos. All I know is that 3/4 of the ram pairs I have had have been monsters, including the pair I'm spawning right now.

Why not try an angelfish pair and a ram pair? In a tall tank like a 29 gallon that may work.
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That will most likely be a constant battle ground. You could do a pair of apistos, if you want a little more action add a 2nd female. Gbr and apistos prefer different temps so typically you wouldn't house them together. I keep a trio of cacs and trio of bolivians in a 40b. They squabble a bit but it's working. Foot print plays a major role as all the dwarfs listed are substrate spawners/dwellers. Lots of different caves and plants helps. Breaks up territories. Your footprint isn't ideal for multiple clans.

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I do have other tanks I could move the fish if it doesn't work, I think I'll try out 1 pair of each...

Btw according to seriously fish, the Rams and apistos have same temperatures ranges, 22-29C...
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I do have other tanks I could move the fish if it doesn't work, I think I'll try out 1 pair of each...

Btw according to seriously fish, the Rams and apistos have same temperatures ranges, 22-29C...
More tanks!! That's what happened over here. BTW I'm right ask anyone that knows.that's general ranges,they're best kept at specific temps.

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