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Old 10-10-2014, 11:51 AM   #11
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For a stable ph level I use Texas holy rock. Others put crush coral in the filter but if my tap water ph changes too much I add this buffer Click image for larger version

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It's up to you how you keep a stable ph but here are some options


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Old 10-10-2014, 12:00 PM   #12
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I had the same problems when I started with cichlids I lost some cichlids
I didn't buffer I was told at first I didn't have to. I have since realized for me keeping a ph at 7.8 my cichlids do a lot better. I also have a jewel who is still doing good.
So for me when I started keeping a high ph level I had no more deaths like that.

Everyone depending where you get your tap water from will need a slightly different formula.




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Old 10-10-2014, 12:07 PM   #13
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Okay, sounds good thanks guys. I made a topic awhile back about my Ph and people were telling me 7.5 wasn't bad and stuff but I'm thinking and hoping if I higher it a bit it'll help with not anymore deaths. Lol


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Old 10-10-2014, 12:10 PM   #14
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But one more question if I raise my ph will that hurt my jewel??


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Old 10-10-2014, 12:14 PM   #15
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Do it vary slowly with the buffer I recommend I do a spoon and half per day until I get the ph I want. So if you buffer at 7 am you buffer at 7 am everyday give them 24hr to get used to it.
I have a jewel with my peacocks and he does fine but it's not recommended because they are not from the same lake from a rivers really. But see my guys here at 8.2 ph Click image for larger version

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Old 10-10-2014, 12:15 PM   #16
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Oh wow there beautiful! Ok thanks!


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Old 10-10-2014, 12:22 PM   #17
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But one more question if I raise my ph will that hurt my jewel??
If we believe that raising your pH will positively impact your rift lake cichlids than you have to come to the logical conclusion that raising your pH could negatively impact your West African riverine cichlids.

Personally, I don't think either of those things is true in your specific case but it can't be just one or the other. IME, GH/TDS has a greater impact on fish than pH, especially if you are talking about a pH in the mid-7's.
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Old 10-10-2014, 12:26 PM   #18
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I switched to sand about a year ago never going back lol , easy to clean and looks good ..


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If we believe that raising your pH will positively impact your rift lake cichlids than you have to come to the logical conclusion that raising your pH could negatively impact your West African riverine cichlids.

Personally, I don't think either of those things is true in your specific case but it can't be just one or the other. IME, GH/TDS has a greater impact on fish than pH, especially if you are talking about a pH in the mid-7's.

If we were using the same tap water I can see your point.
I tried with tap water ph with Texas holy rock it didn't work for me and I know a lot of guys here swear it doesn't matter to keep ph in the mid 7s I just kept losing fish so I raised ph it worked for me.

Also explain what you mean by IME GH/TDS keep in mind she is new


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Also explain what you mean by IME GH/TDS keep in mind she is new
My experience that with a stable neutral(7) or near neutral pH most aquarium fish can adapt as long as they don't come from severe extremes in pH. Moreover, mbuna in particular seem relatively tolerant of neutral pH.

Where I have had more difficulty is acclimating fish to large variances in GH which measures the mineral content in the water or total dissolved solids(TDS) which measures the amount of dissolved matter in the water. GH and TDS are usually correlated meaning that you will usually have high TDS if your GH is high and vice versa. This is not always the case but it usually is, especially in source water.

Now, we have no idea how hard the OP's water is so I can't really comment if it is an issue in this specific case or not.
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