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Old 01-13-2014, 11:09 PM   #1
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Water Levels for chiclids

I got my new testing kit ( someone here suggested a great one for me). Its really pretty simple to use! Now i need to know what levels are important and what they should be.

I know PH level is a big one because i am losing fish daily because of it, what else is important?
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:15 PM   #2
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Ph needs to be above 7.8 and everything else ammonia. Nitrite. Should be at 0
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:27 PM   #3
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Ph needs to be above 7.8 and everything else ammonia. Nitrite. Should be at 0
Just curious, I have an oscar and the PH for his tank is running around 8. I understand that they can live in that but from what I've read, optimal PH is between 6 and 7. So, are the things I'm reading bs or is he safe where it is? I've tried a ton of PH Down during the fishless cycle and that crap really doesn't work.
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Old 01-13-2014, 11:34 PM   #4
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You need a discus buffer that brings ph down fast. I read ciclids so I assumed Africans ph of 8 for oscars is too high they can live in it but it's not ideal for him either
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I guess what's more important is what kind of fish to you have because every fish has different ph depending on where they are from Africans love high ph and SA love low ph
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If you are thinking about changing pH, it should either be done very slowly or not at all. FW fish can adapt to a variety of pH levels (of course, some more than others) as long as the other parameters are within normal range.

You should strive for 0 ppm ammonia, 0 ppm nitrites, and 0-20 ppm nitrates. > 0 ammonia and nitrite are generally considered toxic.
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If you are thinking about changing pH, it should either be done very slowly or not at all. FW fish can adapt to a variety of pH levels (of course, some more than others) as long as the other parameters are within normal range.

You should strive for 0 ppm ammonia, 0 ppm nitrites, and 0-20 ppm nitrates. > 0 ammonia and nitrite are generally considered toxic.

This confused me. Whats toxic?
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This confused me. Whats toxic?
Ammonia or nitrites readings higher than zero = toxic
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Old 01-14-2014, 08:22 AM   #9
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Oscars will do just fine in an 8.0 pH. I would avoid messing with it unless ABSOLUTELY necessary.

Ammonia and nitrIte are both highly toxic to fish. Optimally they will both be at 0 but .25ppm is still in the range of being safe.

Acceptable nitrAte levels are constantly debated but personally, I try to keep my tanks below 40ppm and have a lot of success with that level.

Weekly 50% water changes and proper feeding will help keep parameters in happy ranges.
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Thanks!!!!! My ph was dangerously low which I think made the ammonia high. I am going to check them ONE MORE TIME then I am rehoming my jacks. I lost 3 of 8, and if the water isn't better tonight I am giving them to my sister. Can't stand to let them all die.
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