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Old 08-29-2014, 10:53 AM   #1
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What's wrong with my Yellow Lab?

It's a new aquarium, it is cycled, I've added fish to this tank 5 days ago. All other fish are swimming around happily, but this guy doesn't look happy. He likes to sit on this rock a lot and looks very shy. There's no aggression between fish yet.
Water parameters are good. Ammonia 0, nitrites 0, nitrates 20-40, PH 7.5, temp 25c.
I can't get nitrates lower, because our tap water has at least 20-40...
What's wrong with him?

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Old 08-29-2014, 11:06 AM   #2
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I had an Acei start doing this a few weeks ago.
Does it seem like it's balancing on its tail with its head pointing towards the surface?
Does it not move much and tend not to go after food?

Mine did this, I first thought it was just a bullied fish and it was scared to come out.
I later thought that it might be mild swim bladder disease.
I fed it some crushed peas and two days later it seemed completely fine.
I don't know if this is what's happening to your fish, but it's worth a go.


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Old 08-29-2014, 01:11 PM   #3
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He just keeps by himself away from other fishes. And yes, he didn't eat much either now that I think of it.
I will try to get some food to him.
He was the most active fish in the fish store though.
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Old 09-02-2014, 11:50 AM   #4
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He still doesn't want to eat. Flakes literally floated in front of him, but he didn't want to eat. And he still keeps to himself. He's been laying on the floor for the past few days most of the time.
I don't know what do.
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He still doesn't want to eat. Flakes literally floated in front of him, but he didn't want to eat. And he still keeps to himself. He's been laying on the floor for the past few days most of the time.
I don't know what do.

Are you sure SHE isn't holding?

If you're sure it's a definite male then it must just be getting bullied.

If it hasn't been eating for this long then I would assume it's either holding or just too scared to come out.


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Old 09-02-2014, 01:46 PM   #6
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I have aquarium next to my desk and he's not getting bullied. Actually there seems to be absolutely not aggression in the tank (yet).

When I feed he comes out swimming with other fish but never takes food and then goes back to his spot.

I'm not 100% sure whether it's male or female. However, when I purchased the fish last week I was told it was a male.

If it's a female, how can I tell if she is actually holding? At what size can they breed anyway? The fish is only about 5 cm long.
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I have aquarium next to my desk and he's not getting bullied. Actually there seems to be absolutely not aggression in the tank (yet).

When I feed he comes out swimming with other fish but never takes food and then goes back to his spot.

I'm not 100% sure whether it's male or female. However, when I purchased the fish last week I was told it was a male.

If it's a female, how can I tell if she is actually holding? At what size can they breed anyway? The fish is only about 5 cm long.

Well unless it was vented there and then as you bought it, there's no way the person you were buying off could've known its gender.

A holding female will generally look pretty normal unless you're looking closely.
Her mouth should be moving around a lot, or it should look like she's breathing heavily.
Her 'chin' would start to look bloated as the eggs grew.
A holding female approaches food when you present it to her but she will maybe peck at it and retreat away.
If she's been holding for a while she will start to look skinny since she is starving herself.

Oh and believe me, at 5cm it is absolutely possible that she could breed.
I know a breeder who's had 3 month old fry holding.


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Alright, thank you. I hope it's a holding female then and not some illness. I guess I can only wait now.
Will update this thread when something happens.
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I took some close-ups of the fish (click for full size). Can you tell anything from these photos?







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I'm pretty sure she's not holding. Her bucal cavity would be more prominent. He (males have a deep black line on their dorsal fin - looks male to me) has a nip on his tail and my guess would be that he's probably being nipped at or bullied.


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