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Old 09-21-2012, 12:40 PM   #1
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30 gallon tank, Dwarf Lion Fish!

Hello everyone!! I had a fresh water tank before that was nuked. I had started it up without reading and all the good stuff we do when we first get into the hobby thinking it's all too easy.

As of right now, I am in the process of getting a new tank, same size. Just the tank I got everything else. I am repainting the stand to black, it was oak. Didn't like oak I think black matches everything. Once I do that I a plan on doing a salt water tank and fishless cycle. Starting the beginning of November with the cycle.

I don't plan on a reef tank, just some live rock (Enough to get a good bio things going on). I wanted to set up the rock on one corner of my tank as to provide some hiding spaces for the Fuzzy Dwarf Lion Fish I plan on keeping. I plan on keeping Just him/her in the tank. No other fish and I was also planning on putting a tuxedo sea urchin in with the tank to help keep it clean.
I was wondering if I should put another fish in with the Lion, or just keep to my Idea. The only reason I was wondering if I should keep another fish is because of the bio-filter that I want to keep up in my tank for the good bacteria. If I should put another fish, what fish should I put in a 30 gallon set up so he will not eat the fish and both will be happy?

I have a 30 gallon tank filter that sits on the tank, but I am going to buy a canister filter to add to the tank filtering. I was planning on using the regular filter with a sponge filter inside to keep some good bio going, and the canister filter will help as well. I got a good heater and I am also going to use a bubbler being I got one on the side of the tank with a small air stone. Not some big on, just to keep water moving and to use it because I got it. I am also going to get a skimmer!

So the plan! Live rock built up on the right side of the tank to offer hiding places and some perches for my guy to lay on and the urchin to munch on. A big open space for swimming on the left side. Two filters, the little Marian land one and a canister one, and a small air stone bubbler on the left side. The tank that I plan will only have two living residents in. A dwarf fuzzy lion, and a tuxedo sea urchin. My main question is should I add another fish, and what fish should it be?
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:15 PM   #2
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I'd say set up the tank, get it cycled really well then add the lionfish. Once he's eating well and settled in think about another little fish (but too big to eat of course). Dwarf lionfish are weird in that they sit around a lot. Its why smaller tanks are ok. After about 3 months if everything is going well in your tank add a fish for movement....
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:42 PM   #3
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Don't need the airstone for saltwater it will just create micro bubbles which ya don't want.
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Cool, No Air Stone than. Thanks Crystal. When I get this tank set up I will take pics and post here. I know the Dwarfs Lion fish likes to lay around a-lot. That's why I have chosen it as my fish of choice. I am doing a lot of research before getting my fish. I don't want to end up messing this tank up like I did my fresh water tank. Do you think the tuxedo sea urchin and the Lion Fish will be ok together and produce enough waste to get the good bacteria going?

I don't really want to add another fish, I just want to make sure that the two things I have chosen will be fine together and be more than enough to keep up the good bacteria.

Every time I look up what to put with the Lion Fish, all you get is. Big enough for it not to fit into it's mouth. The only problem with that is, nothing big enough can fit into a 30 gallon tank comfortably.
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Sorry to hear about your FW tank crash, but setup sounds exciting! Would love to see the setup when you have everything. A lionfish should be more than enough for the bioload. This is partly because of the foods that you will give the lionfish . It creates more waste than feeding food to say a clownfish...hopefully that makes sense Also, urchins eat coralline algae which many people love to keep for viewing pleasure (pink, purple, etc.). If you don't care then that won't be a problem at all. Also if there isn't enough algae in the tank for the urchin to feast supplementing it with dried seaweed.
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Thanks Obscurereef!

Yeah, I read up on the tuxedo sea urchin, I think they look really cool. It was the only one I found that gave minimal tank size of 20 gallons. So I thought a 30 gallon would be idea for it. Plus I read up on it's feeding requirements. I figure the Lion wouldn't mess with it because of it not really being a fish, and it being too big to get into it's mouth. Plus it has spins the Lion wouldn't want to mess with it. Thanks for the info!!
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Yeah no problem! Sea Urchins are awesome and it will look great in your tank. Any fish will definitely stay away from them b/c of their spikes. Except for the striped shrimpfish that uses the long spine urchin as protection pretty much. A very interesting type of fish that I hope to keep in the distant future (they are for experts..really hard to keep, but what a rewarding challenge!)
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When you buy your lion it will probably only eat live feeder fish which is a pain buy you can ween hum onto krill if you keep at it. Took me about 2 months but once he took to frozen i havent had to feed another live fish. Dwarf lions are awesome, youll love it. If suggest since its reef safe you pick up some easy coral like grren star polyps to add some movement in the tank but thats just me
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Obscurefeed

I did some research and a lot of people and internet sources say that they are not hard to keep. That is why I choose the one I did.

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All I got is the "Single Bright LED Aquarium Lighting" light from Marineland. I thought about corals but getting a light for the coral is a lot I see them for 100 of dollars. Now if there is coral that can use that light than ok, I might. How would I even go about putting the corals in? Would I put them in first than the fish? I have done no research as of yet because I never planed on putting corals into my tank. I am planing on a much bigger tank. 90-200 gallons but not anytime in the future. About a year or two out, and I am trying to get information about that to have. I have another posting on this website for that. ;-p
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Oh no sorry for the confusion! I stated that the shrimpfish was hard to keep, not an urchin (invert).
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