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Old 08-14-2010, 04:35 AM   #391
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I've heard mangrove trees growing in your sump or in a hang-on on the back of your tank will remove enough organic materials to make a skimmer useless. I haven't tried it yet, but if I start a tropical tank I will be using mangrove trees as a nutrient sink.

You can buy them pretty cheap, if you live near the water in florida you could probably go get your own.
This is totally incorrect. Mangroves and micro algae gets rid of nitrates and couple other things that algae feeds on. This makes it harder for algae to get what it needs to grow in your tank.

Skimmer gets rid off all the crap in the water. Keeps the water quality clean. More for coral.
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Old 08-14-2010, 08:50 AM   #392
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Just a quick question... what is the best "canary" in a coal mine, for a salt water reef tank?
I would think that algae growth would be the quickest thing to notice and use as a monitor. Pink coralline verse bad hair or cryno.
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I would think that algae growth would be the quickest thing to notice and use as a monitor. Pink coralline verse bad hair or cryno.
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This is totally incorrect. Mangroves and micro algae gets rid of nitrates and couple other things that algae feeds on. This makes it harder for algae to get what it needs to grow in your tank.

Skimmer gets rid off all the crap in the water. Keeps the water quality clean. More for coral.
I read about someone who added mangrove trees to his aquarium, and after a while his skimmer stopped removing anything. I'll stop repeating it though until I get some personal experience.
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The skimmer removes stuff before it brakes down into nitrates (proteins, oils, uneaten fish food, and micro algae to name a few). If you have the capacity to deal with the nitrates you don't need a skimmer.
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Tank has salt water in it... and only 1 leak... about 1 drip every 60 seconds or so.
I have salt in it... only at 1.016 atm. I have also started my cycle... I have added 5 raw shrimp... the 30 per pound size.
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So on controllers I'm still on the fence about the controller I'm going to use... Neptune Apex or Digital Aquatics RKE. The main function for me is the light's going on and off as well as the moonlights... I will probably use the other stuff later on but my main thing is those two... does anyone have a preference or an opinion on them? Possibly even experience.
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This is totally incorrect. Mangroves and micro algae gets rid of nitrates and couple other things that algae feeds on. This makes it harder for algae to get what it needs to grow in your tank.

Skimmer gets rid off all the crap in the water. Keeps the water quality clean. More for coral.
This is actually not totally incorrect. With one or two mangroves, you won't see much, if any heavy nitrate removal. They grow way too slow to really do much for an average setup.

However, If you start getting several per gallon to create a "mangrove forest" the mud they are planted in along with the maze of roots can remove a lot of organic waste. Turf algae scrubbers have also been reported to remove a lot of organic waste.

No arguments though that its far inferior to a giant skimmer in most cases, but not "totally incorrect."
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Tank has salt water in it... and only 1 leak... about 1 drip every 60 seconds or so.
I have salt in it... only at 1.016 atm. I have also started my cycle... I have added 5 raw shrimp... the 30 per pound size.
Conga Rats! I know that adding water was a major step!

So where is the leak? How are you going to take care of it?

Looking good!
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