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Old 09-12-2013, 09:38 AM   #31
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I think we need to take a step back and breath. To the OP, what blert is trying to tell you is that, more likely than not, running a canister is going to be more of a headache than its worth, of which he gave a few options that would better suit your needs. (nothing wrong with that). As is the same for trkey. This hobby isnt necessarily always about right and wrong, its about what works for YOU. I could sit here and argue with greg or mr x about what each of us think is wrong or right, however all three of us have stable established setups that prob arent even alike in terms of equipment and running filtration. That being said, heres my 2 cents. Id PERSONALLY spend my time and effort somewhere other than a canister filter.( i use filter socks for mechanical filtration, thats it) BUT if you are going canister i can tell you this, i picked up a fluval 305 canister at the lfs (pricetag marked wrong . ) and i absolutely love it!! Its by far the quietest piece pf equipment ive ever owned and i will buy another if ever needbe. It has 3 seperate bins that can be customized however, and also has a 2 stage sponge slot as well. Ive never used marineland canisters but id put a fluval up against them anytime
Thank you for your input sir, that what I wanted to see lol
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:40 AM   #32
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I used them 20 years ago. They haven't changed much, they leak and are wet and nasty to clean. Best used for small fish only systems IMO. I also would like to see a heavily stocked hard coral tank that runs solely on canister filters. Not saying its impossible, but I would like to see it.

Lots of live rock and a efficient protein skimmer is all you really need. Along with regular water exchanges. This is the tried and true method. There are other methods and advances on even this simple method, but the predominant approach is rock and skimming even at 75 gallons.
I thought the guy down at the lrs was full of it, he said all I need it a reef octopus and a pair of koralia evo 750s, how is this possible with now mechanical filtration at all. .?
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:43 AM   #33
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Yup, I hope he does. If not, enjoy your new headache.
And to everyone else, I'm on a student/father of one budget, its hard to get the money for an epic skimmer or a professional custom sump and $600 worth of live rock and so on.. I'm trying to look at this financially. I don't mind the headache because i do all my weekly water changes and cleaning on my saturdays anyways I'm off on the weekends. So that being said, I'm open to suggestions.. POLITE suggestions..
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Old 09-12-2013, 09:44 AM   #34
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I thought the guy down at the lrs was full of it, he said all I need it a reef octopus and a pair of koralia evo 750s, how is this possible with now mechanical filtration at all. .?
Because your skimmer is basically your mechanical filtration and the evos are for flow to help the LR with biological filtration. That and waterchanges is all it takes
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Old 09-12-2013, 10:04 AM   #35
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Because your skimmer is basically your mechanical filtration and the evos are for flow to help the LR with biological filtration. That and waterchanges is all it takes
So why the trouble of canisters and sumps and refugiums?
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Refugiums/sumps add volume to your tank, which stabilizes it. Gives you room to grow macroalgae, also pods. And room to store unsightly equipment. (heaters/probes/ etc)
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Old 09-12-2013, 10:54 AM   #37
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Refugiums/sumps add volume to your tank, which stabilizes it. Gives you room to grow macroalgae, also pods. And room to store unsightly equipment. (heaters/probes/ etc)
ok well my predicament starts with this stand, its a nightmare, i dont want to try to enclose it and drill holes in everything and it will never be the same if i change my mind.

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Well, I was going to say that if you didn't want a debate then keep your mouth shut and don't post on an open forum. Then I thought better of it because you would report me and I would get in trouble with the Mods. Ah well, who the **** cares, time I cut the link to this crybaby *** forum anyway. This used to be a great place years ago then it got clogged up with kids and morons who have no understanding of what they are doing and why. Continue your path of leading newbies down the path of failure.
I personally used a canister for a long long time because I was in the same boat as tex with limited income, not much space, and plenty of free time. Our conversations outside of this forum have been about the proper maintenance he will need to be doing if he runs a canister. Also if you're from Florida like your profile says and you're for the north end you probably buy your fish from me since I have my wholesale, retail and import license and a full saltwater only fish store that was opened specifically to change the perspective of LFS's we sell cheaper than anyone and healthier than anyone and refuse any sale that we know won't work like a tang in a 55. I know what works or I wouldn't still be in business. We sold over 300 fish, inverts and coral colonies in the store last week and shipped out 4x that wholesale. If you think I don't know what I'm doing you're wrong. There always somewhere we haven't seen or something we need to ask but that's what this forum is for.
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I personally used a canister for a long long time because I was in the same boat as tex with limited income, not much space, and plenty of free time. Our conversations outside of this forum have been about the proper maintenance he will need to be doing if he runs a canister. Also if you're from Florida like your profile says and you're for the north end you probably buy your fish from me since I have my wholesale, retail and import license and a full saltwater only fish store that was opened specifically to change the perspective of LFS's we sell cheaper than anyone and healthier than anyone and refuse any sale that we know won't work like a tang in a 55. I know what works or I wouldn't still be in business. We sold over 300 fish, inverts and coral colonies in the store last week and shipped out 4x that wholesale. If you think I don't know what I'm doing you're wrong. There always somewhere we haven't seen or something we need to ask but that's what this forum is for.
well i work monday through friday with weekends off, so i have alot of free time to be cleaning which i take my saturdays to do with my other 4 tanks anyhow, so it will be just another stop on my rounds on saturdays mornings, im not worried about the weekly maintenance, just that its hard to hide this thing, let alone a sump/refugium, and one more thing, im STILL stuck on the canister choice, ive seen alot of bickering on the thread and only 3 votes, its a poll thread people geez, just state your opinion POLITELY, vote on the poll, please!

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Some of our members are a bit too passionate, or hard headed (including me on some topics). With a light livestock load and good maintenance you can make a canister work. Just don't expect miracles from it. If you want to do more later, look into more live rock and a skimmer to replace the canister. This is a more "natural" approach that doesn't require as much maintenance. Good luck and keep us all posted.
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