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Old 12-13-2012, 01:03 PM   #1
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ADA 75-P Hole-Less Reef Build?

It's about a 40 gallon tank. If I wanted to go with no overflow or refugium and just a very large canister filter like a big Eheim, how well would that work?

Besides lighting and a heater, what other parts would I need?

Do I just need a hang on back protein skimmer?

The plan is to have a Valentini puffer fish and a modest amount of coral. I'm not expecting huge giant growth.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:12 PM   #2
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yup, I would still suggest skimmer, and if you are using canister filter, what I know someone did is remove all media in it and replace with rock rubble
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:32 PM   #3
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Thanks!

What would be the advantage of using just rock rubble instead of the multiple layers and foams that come with Eheim filters.

Would I still need a filter even with a protien skimmer? They seem to do filtration themselves.

AquaC Remora Series Protein Skimmers: Aquarium Protein Skimmers

CPR Bak-Pak Protein Skimmer

The bioload will be 1 smaller puffer and a few corals in a 40 gallon.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:38 PM   #4
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I personally wouldn't put rock rubble in the canister as it will clog up from detritus settling in the filter. I would use the canister for running carbon and phosphate removing products in the bottom 2 compartments then filter floss in the top so that its easy to change. Always get into a routine, every week maybe for cleaning out the filter as they tend to be a nitrate factory but regular cleaning will stop that
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:39 PM   #5
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Oh my tank is run on a canister and a hang on skimmer
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:46 PM   #6
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Got ya thanks.

So for a ADA 40 gallon, what do you guys think of using a 2215 with either of the following:

http://www.marinedepot.com/AquaMaxx_...PSHONW-vi.html

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http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...fm?pcatid=4409


And then I guess I have to pick out some lighting.

What kind of expectations should I have in terms of what I kind of coral I can grow with this sort of setup with strong lighting.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:51 PM   #7
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I would scrap the canister, and run a HOB filter, and a HOB protein skimmer. Canister filters aren't meant for GFO or carbon, both of which take different flow rates which are slower than a canister flows. You could end up basically breaking up the material and fine particles will end up in your tank... You can always run GFO and carbon in a HOB, I use a AC70, and there's lots of options for customizing media.
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Old 12-13-2012, 01:53 PM   #8
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Never used one of them skimmers. Have a look at aqua medic turboflotor skimmers they are a great price and skim very well. I have to empty my skimmer cup every 2 to 3 days because it pulls out some right nasty stuff lol. Any canister will do but make sure it has a decent flow rate and throw away all the sponges and filter media that come with it as they are useless and use filter floss and change it for new floss every 4 to 5 days.
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The main reason why I don't like use Canister on Reef is mainly because the extra work you need to do. It is actually less chance to clog the filter compare to actual medias. Also keeping carbon in there means in few month down the road (depend on bio load), that thing will become a phosphate /nitrate generator if you don't replace it.
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Old 12-13-2012, 03:36 PM   #10
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How about an internal filter?

Aquarium Filters: Fluval U-Series Underwater Filters from Hagen at fosterandsmithaquatics.com

Would that and a Bak-Pak which has it's own filtration be sufficient?

I really don't want to get a hang on back filter if possible.
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