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Old 01-30-2007, 02:06 AM   #11
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Sarcasm aside I'm sure Lando was curious about what and how you feed since it can impact how much extra junk you add to the tank. Flakes for instance are pinched and dropped over the side after which you observe the fish feeding, good call. But its recommended to remove the extra food the fish dont eat after giving them 5 minutes to eat as much as they can. If you feed frozen brine or mysis shrimp it can help lower nitrate introduction if you let the cube thaw and rinse it before introducing it into the tank. These methods helped me greatly reduce my nitrates.
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:21 AM   #12
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well, i feed my fish by taking a small pinch of food, putting it over the water, dropping the food, then observing as my fish eats it, i go from brine shrimp to flake food, but i use the drop the food in the water technique for both of em, its pretty complicated i guess,
It sounds like it...I am very surprised you managed to figure it out. I ask specific questions for specific reasons. However...I will now "bow out". It sounds like you have things well under control with your tank.
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well, i guess the wording of the question triggered the sarcasm. i suppose the question that should have been asked instead of the feeding techniqueis what does scoot do with the leftover food? i personally try to feed to little than to much, but thats just me. i must admit the feeding technique thing was a little odd given the way most people treat feeding as routine. i think thats why it was given a sarcastic answer. im not try to offend anyone, just smooth over this issue to get back to the algae problems.

if scoot gets the seachem purigen and seagel, i think it will cure his alage problem. they look like they will do the trick.
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if scoot gets the seachem purigen and seagel, i think it will cure his alage problem. they look like they will do the trick.
These are band aid solutions. They only cover up the real problem. We need to find out what is fueling this algea and cut it out. Personally we dont need to know if you are a sarcastic person or not. We just need to know are you willing to help yourself and do you really want good advice. The advice given was pretty sound. I`ve seen it work time and time again. I would suggest also that you go to the nano forum as maybe the guys over there can help with their nano experience.
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Old 01-30-2007, 03:09 PM   #15
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Bottom line is ANY nitrate and ANY phosphate will fuel the algae. Your water changes are not sufficiently adequate to help combat the problem. You mention the aquaclear filter. When is the last time the sponge was rinsed? Also, carbon will lose its efficiency within a week of being replaced.

You do not tell us if you are vacuming the substrate or anything else to get rid of detritus.

When you feed the brine, are you straining out the shrimp from the water it has thawed in?

All of these are things to consider.

Also, one other item..kill the sarcasm and more people will be willing to help you. We don't get paid to do this, so therefore, no one really has to put up with it. Play nice.
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yea, im not too worried about the nitrates, ive been using the same techniques with feeding/amounts/whatever for the last four years, ive only come up to the problem like recently, and yea i do siphon out the crap in the sand with the smallest siphon hose i can find, but when i do a water change that doesnt help fuel the algae, ive noticed when i take alot of the detritus out of the sand, thats when the algae blooms start getting out of control, which is wierd, but i have noticed that
i wasnt being sarcastic, i was giving a detailed explanation on how i feed my fish, you all seemed interested WTF?!?
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Could it be that you are removing the bacteria with the detritus which leaves more detritus not being broken down causing the algae bloom?
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yea, im not too worried about the nitrates, ive been using the same techniques with feeding/amounts/whatever for the last four years,
..and now you have a major algae issue. I think the mystery is solved. Nitrates cause algae.
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yea, im not too worried about the nitrates, ive been using the same techniques with feeding/amounts/whatever for the last four years, ive only come up to the problem like recently, ...
Well... if you're not too worried about the nitrates, then I guess you'd better just get used to the algae. Folks here are trying to help. Shoot... the fish guy at the LFS is trying to help by throwing in a free phosphate sponge, but without knowing what the levels are except "not dangerous" that sponge doesn't do much good. You mentioned in your first post...

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Well, my little nanoreef has gone through basically hell, for the last 2 years with algae...
... so it doesn't sound like all has been fine until just recently.

Cut your lighting cycle down for a while, more than just a weekend. Two days isn't going to do it. Do 25% water changes every 3 days or so - with water that you know the parameters of - until you get your nitrate levels down below 10ppm and your phosphate levels at 0. Keep the HOB filter pads spotless - shoot, rinse them out every time you do a water change. Put that phosphate sponge in one of those HOBs and replace it every couple weeks. I've used the ROWA sponges, and they really do work - but not if your levels are too high. There's only so much they can do. Maybe buy a hang on back skimmer, or borrow someones for a month or so.

Or... just keep doing what you've been doing, and get used to the algae. There's no cure in a bottle that's going to help.
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im waiting for a little money on a job, but im gonna do some water changes, and buy some phosban, and purigen from dr fosters, i didnt expect that phosphate pad to work, he gave it to me for free, i just wanted to try it out,(10$ item for free who wouldnt take it honestly) but yea ill get back to you all in a week or so and tell ya how the algae is doing, thanks for your alls help, and the algae problem hasnt been for the last two years, i meant its the second time in the last 2 years, the problem will lasted less than a month before, but im gonna goo for less drastic measures this time, well ill post back soon on how its all doin
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