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Old 02-26-2006, 06:17 PM   #1
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Algae problem

My reef is self destructing and I am not sure what to do. I have a major algae problem and I assumed it was cyano bacteria. I tried chemicals to kill it against my better judgement( felt I had tried everything else) Tons of water changes and scrubbing all rocks of the algae. It is mostly burnt orange and dark brown in color. The first item I used was red slime remover. I followed instructions and waited nothing happened so I siphened the substrate and cleaned all filters and power heads.I Had skimmer turned off. I waited two days and used the chemicals again with no results. Now many of my corals are totally mad and mostly closed. I spent probalby 5 hours scrubbing rocks and cleaning yesterday and made the reef look nice again,, just to wake up to the same stuff on everything I had cleaned. I don't have access to RO/ID water so I use city water and let it set for 24 hours. I had the problem before the city water figured I would try a change thinking my well water was the problem. I am gonna move my expensive corals to my wifes nanocube till the problem is resolved. Any ideas ? here are some pics to help you also the really dark red you may see is a dark coraline algae
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Old 02-26-2006, 06:34 PM   #2
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I see cyanobacteria in every one of those photos.

You are going to have to go to the store (Wal-Mart) and buy RO/DI water. It is the water labeled Distilled or Purified. Each time you put city water into your tank you add in nutrients that are causing the cyano to bloom. Nothing will change until you change the water you are using. The reason is because city water is treated with chemicals that kill bacteria, leaving waste in the water. The cyanobacteria feeds off of this waste.

I would recommend that you do not add any more of the chemicals you used to try and stop the problem. They are a temporary solution and will only result in more problems.
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Old 02-26-2006, 06:45 PM   #3
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Thanks is makes sense I didn't wanna use them but I wanted to get rid of the stuff so I could get to the source so it may not have this happen again. I will do that tomorrow and do a water change.

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Old 02-26-2006, 07:50 PM   #4
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have you tested your water for phosphates? Nitrates? I'm not 100% sure thats cyno after looking at those pics, its hard to tell.
You should save up and buy a ro/di unit.. there around $100 on ebay, your corals will thank you.
post the numbers when you test the water.
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I haven't tested for phosphates yet,, but I have been testing all along for nitrates, PH,nitrites, and ammonia they have been all 0 except PH= 8.2 I am sure an RO/DI unit is on my list. I have seen nice ones for about 130.00 with shipping thats seems like a pretty good price.

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Old 02-26-2006, 08:06 PM   #6
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phosphates is the fuel for cyno, I would test for it and see what you have. Also test your top off water and see if its there also. When I had it bad I was using Kold-steril water and I was just feeding the cyno every time the tank topped off. Switched back to ro/di and all is better. If its bad a phosban reactor is a great piece of equipment and it is cheap also..
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Thanks I will look into a phosban reactor also. I seen them on ebay also Thanks for the help

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Old 02-28-2006, 02:26 PM   #8
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I would have to say it isn't a slime algae,, Is Cyano bacteria always a slime like algae? This stuff is more like a powder like coating that goes away at night but shortly after the lights are on it is covering most everything. I bought some distilled water and changed out 6 gallons of the 30 gal tank. With 90 pounds of live rock there probably isn't much water volume in there. I have stopped all anti-biotic like treat ment because they did nothing at all. Any more ideas? I am getting an RO/DI unit in about 1-2 weeks.

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Old 03-02-2006, 11:20 PM   #9
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I need some more ideas now. I have purchased distilled water and purchased copper and phosphate tests. I tested my well water, distilled water, and tank water which recently had a 6 gallon water change with the distilled water. They all came up will readys of or near .1 on my seachem phosphate test. all other tests are perfect. Now another question about the redslime remover I used and another cyano medicine I used. How long will it take for the medicine to works it way out of the system,, I have since done two nice changes. All of my LPS corals are beautiful but my zoo's and mushrooms look very very bad, could this be due to the medicine? Thanks for any help

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I'm running into the SAME issue in my 155g tank. Cyano, everywhere. I syphen it out and the next day it's back (look at www.robertfahey.com/gallery/misc under the fish tank gallery, there's an album, I think the 2nd one, that has images of my algea). I am SOOO sick of it. My levels are perfect:

PH: 8.4
NO2: 0
NO3: 0
Ammonia: .5
PO4: 0
Alk: 5

I've got just a FO tank and my weekly WC's haven't been enough. I tried Chemi-Clean and it cleared up the water for 3 or 4 days, but Cyano was still there. I cleaned my tank too for about 2 hours, scrubbing all the crap off and it still came back. I have a MAG 18b (1800gph) on my return and 2 Maxi-Jet 900 PH's (230gph each) on either side of the tank for flow. The only thing that I think it could be is my clean-up crew is realy small, only 1 Bali-star, 8 blue & red legged crabs, 8 Nassarius snails (big, abut 2-3" each) and 1 Atlantic Sea Hermit crab. I'm thinking I could use more help on that end.

UGH, I just don't know what to do anymore though. Anyone have ANY ideas?
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