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Old 07-19-2005, 02:09 PM   #11
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i know a guy on the water that did one....he pumped water in from the canal he is on....on the intercoastal here in stpete and his doing good....alot of work though
he also used native fla fish
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Old 07-19-2005, 02:28 PM   #12
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Sounds like if you lived that close to the ocean it would be easier to simply snorkel?

Salt is cheaper in bulk.

If you had a fish-store/pool-sized filtration system with tons of liverock you could possibly pull it off. Water changes would be the only issue. Well, that and light. If you plan on using the sun, plan on replacing hundreds of gallons of fresh clean water every couple days.....
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Old 07-19-2005, 03:11 PM   #13
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Not sure on the hundreds of gallons every couple of days. My backyard pool looses about 2" of water a month on a 24' diameter pool. That is a total of 113 cubic ft of water which turns out to 845 gallons per month. Or about 30 gallons a day.

A 24' pools hols 18050 gallons of water and in Lubbock Texas in the summer at about 96-100 degrees the water stay at about 76-80 degrees.
($3500 for pool) ($30 increase in water bill to fill, $5 a month to top off and water changes) ($30 for salt to make 200 gal, $700 a month for 25% once a month) ($2700 for salt to start)

with 2 pool pump systems for flow you would have plenty of flow. ($300 for extra pump)

Sun would provide plenty of light for anthing in the pool especailly if just having fowlr system. (free)

27075 lbs of live rock for 1.5 lbs per gallon ($160,000 from lr.com, or $23,000 from hirocks.com)

heater for winter time. ($800 per unit, two needed, $1600)

skimmer would be a PITA!!! ($700???)

Plexi panel for viewing woult need to be 1" thick. ($500) ($200 for parts)

so about $40,000 for initial set op of a 24' diameter aquarium. and about $1000 a month in upkeep including food (but not water treatments like calcium and ph buffers).
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well....the guy i know pulls water directly out of the ocean and overflows back into the ocean....so he never has to top off
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The guy I know uses an artisan well, so no top off, salt bags, protein skimmers, live rock, filters, and no heater (uses native fish). You can see his fish perfectly, maybe because of all the algae he added to it. For food, he either catches live bait or feeds them scraps of yellowfin tuna (he's a charter captain and therefore gets fish daily.) If you use native fish then no heater is necessary. Besides the native fish are more interesting.

You could also pull water from the ocean, river, or canal if you live close any of these.

Using these methods, your expenses only come from building the pond and the artisan well.
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I thought an artesian well relied on a hill or something to create pressure on the groundwater to bring the water up.

If that is true then wouldn't the water be fresh?
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Thank everyone for the feedback

Although I liked the concept after hearing some of your advice I gave the guy a deposit today for a rubber liner Koi Pond. Fresh water it is. About 2500 gallons. Thanks again.
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Some areas in Florida have saltwater intrusion in the groundwater. I don't know if there are any other states that have saltwater intrusion.
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I dunno about saltwater ponds. For one, a cross section view is a bit more interesting than a top view, IMO. However, if we are talking about sharks etc, may that can be interesting from a top view.

Wouldn't saltwater ponds with wild carnivores be a humane society issue or a zoning issue or something? I am just coming up with these without putting too much thought to it. Sorry.

Man, SW ponds can be a headache. I mean, heating, salinity, nitrates, wildlife trying to get your SW pond creatures, bears, etc. I dunno. It sounds like trouble. But if there were people who pulled that off, Kudos!
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