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Old 10-24-2011, 09:25 PM   #151
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ok, reef safe is one issue but more importantly isnt a 20 long in essence a 30, not trying to start a fight, just asking
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:28 PM   #152
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You should get a watchmen goby!!! Pretty but not completely sure if its okay in your tank.
I second that. They, in my opinion, are "the bomb dot com."
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what is your opinion on the cherub
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:19 PM   #154
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Well angels are really active so a 20 gallon might be a tad bit small for him.
If its a reef then I would stay away because there's a good chance he might take a nibble at the corals. But I'm no expert or anything...
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first...not trying to be harsh...a 30 gallon and a 20 gallon differ in volume by 50%...no matter how you do the math. So if they say a minimum of 30 gallons...doesn't mean you can't do whatever you want to...add a shark...20 gallons is perfect for a mini reef and a great start...but it is what it is.

Dwarf angles all play off the same game plan...they sing from the same hymn book. Yes, there is variance...but in general they are omnivores that will eat about anything that looks tasty. In the wild, they range a pretty large area, unlike grammas and firefish who stay put. So a small space is kind of cruel for them.

I am just trying to be helpful...just my opinion along with everyone else's. Weigh that with what your going to do anyway and enjoy.
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i really like the angel though, do you have any suggestions on tank modifications or simmilar fish
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Old 10-24-2011, 10:53 PM   #157
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first...not trying to be harsh...a 30 gallon and a 20 gallon differ in volume by 50%...no matter how you do the math. So if they say a minimum of 30 gallons...doesn't mean you can't do whatever you want to...add a shark...20 gallons is perfect for a mini reef and a great start...but it is what it is.

Dwarf angles all play off the same game plan...they sing from the same hymn book. Yes, there is variance...but in general they are omnivores that will eat about anything that looks tasty. In the wild, they range a pretty large area, unlike grammas and firefish who stay put. So a small space is kind of cruel for them.

I am just trying to be helpful...just my opinion along with everyone else's. Weigh that with what your going to do anyway and enjoy.
everyone says they need the lenth of a 30 but in my tank it would.
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As someone said before, we can only advise you to do something, not make you. It's your tank do whatever, but just know we advised you not to and that's what everyone is saying.
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Old 10-24-2011, 11:07 PM   #159
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It would be plain cruelty to the angel. How about this?

2 clowns
1 gramma
1 watchman goby

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2 clowns
1 gramma
1 bangaii cardinal

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1 clown
1 gramma
1 cardinal
1 watchman goby

Those are some pretty cool ideas. I just think that even if the angel were to survive the stress of being in such a small tank he would be SUPER aggressive toward everything.
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fish dont just swim back and forth, its up and down in different patterns all over the place, and secondly your tank doesn't have the dimensions of a 30, but a 29 which is a tall tank. look at the standard dimensions of a 30 and compare to yours.. they are not the same. Yours is shy by 6 inches. If you want to get into semantics, or technically speaking on size so it should fit; that's your difference.
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