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Old 01-05-2007, 11:51 AM   #1
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amonia problem

i just tested my water because one of my nemos was floating at the top ...my amonia was the only thing that was off... it was at .5 is there anything i can do to fix it or the reason for this?
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:21 PM   #2
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I'm sorry for your loss.
First thing to do is an emergency water change... I'd do at least 50% up to 100%, and retest again. Repeat if necessary.
Although you probably won't see it recommended too often, I always keep a bottle of AmmoniaLock around for just such an emergency situation where I might not be able to do an immediate water change.

Second thing to do is find out where the ammonia is coming from and eliminate the cause. (overfeeding, insufficient filtering, waste buildup in filter media, etc.)

Tell us a little more about your tank, how long it's been setup, tank size, number of fish/cleaners, filtering, how much LS & LR, feeding habits, other water readings, etc.
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:50 PM   #3
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its a 55 gallon... 3 weeks old.. i tested the water before adding anything and everything was at 0 nitrates nitrites and amonia...
i added 15 lbs of rock wednesday and 30 on thursday .. on friday i added the 2 nemos 4 chromis and 2 corals... maybe i added to much??
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:07 PM   #4
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Your tank has not gone through a good thorough cycle IMO.
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:56 PM   #5
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Ouch.
What Hara said.

A little too much, too fast.
Your tank most likely hasn't had a chance to build up enough beneficial bacteria to cope with your bioload yet.

Did you use wet live rock or dry base rock?
If dry, then it will take a lot longer to become "live" enough to properly filter.
If wet, then it will begin filtering right away, but it will probably have at least some die-off that will create an initial ammonia spike.

How about your substrate?
Are you using live sand, dry sand, crushed coral, etc., and how deep is it?

Be prepared that there is a chance you may lose the other fish before your tank has properly cycled.
Some aquarists say that Bio Spira is worthless junk, but I've had good luck using it on my tanks in the past.
It's a liquid pouch of live bacteria that's kept refrigerated at your LFS until you use it.
It's expensive, and there's no guarantee it will help, but if you can afford it, it won't hurt anything but your wallet to give it a try.

You also might want to consider taking the fish back to the store for safe keeping until your tank has fully cycled, and then add them back a little at a time.
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Did you allow your tank to cycle? If not it has to. I see so many things that could be a problem. Adding 45 lbs of LR and adding 6 fish and 2 corals all of this within a three day period. Remember in this hobby Patience is a virtue. If you have not cycled then you need to get all livestock out as they will not make it. If you have cycled then frequent PWC`s will be needed. I would not do more than a 30% but do it every 3 days till it gets down IMO.
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Get the coral out too, pronto!
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Old 01-05-2007, 05:34 PM   #8
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i went to the lfs and the tested my water... everything was fine!!!...

he told me the reason the tiny clwon fish may have died was due to the fact that my plate coral might have hurt him, because i had seen the clown in it for a little... he also told me an anemone would be good..

i have 50 lb live sand
45lb live rock
blue tang, 2 clowns, 4 chromis, and a gobi....
and for corals the plate coral and the polp and the newly added anemone...

i also have a couple questions...
do i need to add any thing to my tank such as calcium or anything to that extent??...
and i no that the clown fish and the anemone is about a 50 50 chance... how long does this usually take? and does it happen with tthe lights off or on??


thankk uu
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I would still keep testing on a daily basis, and keep enough SW onhand for an emergency water change just in case.
Your tank is still very young and your bioload was rushed IMHO.
Like the Boyscouts say, "Be prepared".

As for the clown and hosting... those are probably tankraised clowns in which case your chances may be a lot slimmer than 50/50, unless the one that hosted the plate coral is still alive...
I've got 3 tanks that have clowns in them and the hosting situations break down like this:

Tank 1: Tank-raised O. clown won't host anything. Not anemones, corals, powerheads, magfloats,... nothin'.

Tank 2: Wild harvested Clarki clown. Immediately and aggressively pounces on and hosts any anemone that's placed in the tank. 3 have passed thru his tank (BTA, Sebae, & LTA) and he's loved on all 3. Currently hosting the LTA.

Tank 3: Wild harvested Maroon Gold Striped clown. First hosted an LPS coral after 5 mins in the tank, then I got him a BTA which he also started hosting within 5 mins, then when the BTA got stuck in a PH went back to hosting the LPS again.

Here's a pic of him and the coral.



So to sum up, both my wild clowns hosted immediately and the tank raised one just don't play that game.
Good luck with yours.


On a side note, does anyone know what kind of coral that is?
I bought it with the tank and I haven't seen any in my LFS to ID it yet.
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great picture...

another question wont the Maroon Gold Striped clown be to aggresive with my normal clowns... and if not i will go and buy myself a moroon clown tom and for shure tom i will get myself a clarki...

..no one has answered this question maybe u can.. do i need to add calcium or anything of that extent??

any other suggestions with for fish 4 the reef aquarium?
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