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EJS4 · 10-26-2006, 10:59 PM

You should quarantine your new purchases before you put them in your new tank. Its easier and cheaper to treat small tank, found out the hard way.

TheChad · 10-27-2006, 04:01 AM

I Can't believe no one has said a single word about the tank being only 1 month old!?!?

Most of the time some one says their tank is 1 month old, and everyone jumps on the band wagon about the tank probably not being cycled completely, etc...

I'm not expert, But I have spent and lost alot of money on fish...

Also no one noted that if you add all those fish at once, you will probably shock the system... I assume this still applied to larger 100+ gal tanks!?

-TheChad

austinsdad · 10-27-2006, 08:07 AM

I'm not butterfly fish knowledgeable, but I'd recommend putting that yellow tang in last. Lot's of'm can be meand to newcomers shaped anywhere close to their body shape. Also, if you're going to do corals, I'd think about not doing butterflys at all.

Thought about a purple tang instead of the blue? Hardier IMO.

All said and done though, I'd like to see you only add one of those fish every 3-4 weeks.

And QT too if at all possible.

**melosu58** · 10-27-2006, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJS4

You should quarantine your new purchases before you put them in your new tank. Its easier and cheaper to treat small tank, found out the hard way.

**melosu58** · 10-27-2006, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheChad

Most of the time some one says their tank is 1 month old, and everyone jumps on the band wagon about the tank probably not being cycled completely, etc...

I`m assuming the tank is already cycled. That`s what he said in the first post but if not yes tank needs to be cycled first as Chad said. And as far as adding all those fish at the same time, I suggested not even adding the butterflies. Ray covered it in his post when he said 3-4 weeks.

weekf · 10-27-2006, 10:48 AM

The tank has been cycled. Took 2 weeks only to cycled. Ammonia and Nitrite at 0, Nitrate at 20ppm after cycled. 50% waterchange after cycled everything still 0 except Nitrate dropped to 10ppm.

Add in 10 chromis 1 week ago, water test again 10 minutes ago still Ammonia and Nitrite at 0, Nitrate at 10ppm. Has done 2 feedings for the past few days.

I am planning NO butterflies as I might want to keep coral in future. They are not easy to keep anyway so am dropping the butterflies.

Also will drop the blue tang as they get sick easily and I don't want to keep a quarantine tank, too costly for me to run. So I will only be keeping hardy fish and no more other tangs as I know other than yellow tang the rest are prone to sickness especially blue tang.

-So please advice if ok to add the yellow tang now.
-There will be more fish to come in future but NO more tang will come in. Will the yellow still act aggressive towards other new fishes?

Hara · 10-27-2006, 11:17 AM

Yellows can be nasty buggers. That being said, you have the choice to make, not us.It has been suggested you add the tang last, after the rest of your fish...maybe you missed that part. Why do you want to add the tang now instead of after the other fish?

**melosu58** · 10-27-2006, 11:18 AM

IMO I would wait a week or two since you added all the chromis and if you water test are still OK then I see nothing wrong with adding a yellow tang. But as Ray said they can get agressive but later on as you add fish you might have to cut lights out for a few hours or move rock around to keep his attention. I`ve never had problems adding to mine with the yellow tang but I dont discount the experience of others.

weekf · 10-27-2006, 11:21 AM

Just to add my previous 2 tanks also only took 2 weeks to fully cycled. I think it has got something to do with the rocks I bought. The LFS here at my place (Perth, Australia) normally have plenty of liverocks in their tank for a while and the trip from the LFS to my place only take less than 15 mins drive so not much die off occurs.

Also the saltwater we here use are collected from the ocean by an ocean farm. No mixing of own saltwater here. They supply all the saltwater to many LFS around the area and are top quality water. I have been using their water for 1 year on my previous 2 tanks no algae, no cyano at all.

The above explanation may be the reason for a quick cycle.

EJS4 · 10-28-2006, 08:27 PM

If your not adding the butterflies and the blue tang. What is your new fish list?

10-27-2006, 04:01 AM	#12
TheChad Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Warrensburg, IL Posts: 446	I Can't believe no one has said a single word about the tank being only 1 month old!?!? Most of the time some one says their tank is 1 month old, and everyone jumps on the band wagon about the tank probably not being cycled completely, etc... I'm not expert, But I have spent and lost alot of money on fish... Also no one noted that if you add all those fish at once, you will probably shock the system... I assume this still applied to larger 100+ gal tanks!? -TheChad __________________ 90 Gallon Drilled Glass Tank w/ Corner Overflow: 492w (2x 150w 10,000K MH, 2x 96w Actinic CF) Coralife Aqualight Pro \| ProClear Aquatics 125 Wet/Dry Sump \| Coralife Super Skimmer 65 \| Penguin Power Head 660 x2 \| 120lbs of Live Rock \| 80lbs of Live Sand

10-27-2006, 11:17 AM	#17
Hara Aquarium Advice Addict Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 6,867 Images: 33	Yellows can be nasty buggers. That being said, you have the choice to make, not us.It has been suggested you add the tang last, after the rest of your fish...maybe you missed that part. Why do you want to add the tang now instead of after the other fish? __________________ ~~~~~Hara~~~~~~ View My Tanks Visit FantasyReef.com's Databases!

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10-26-2006, 10:59 PM	#11
EJS4 Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East Windsor, NJ Posts: 254 Images: 8	You should quarantine your new purchases before you put them in your new tank. Its easier and cheaper to treat small tank, found out the hard way.

10-27-2006, 08:07 AM	#13
austinsdad Aquarium Advice Addict Community Mentor Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Clinton, Maryland Posts: 4,175 Images: 12	I'm not butterfly fish knowledgeable, but I'd recommend putting that yellow tang in last. Lot's of'm can be meand to newcomers shaped anywhere close to their body shape. Also, if you're going to do corals, I'd think about not doing butterflys at all. Thought about a purple tang instead of the blue? Hardier IMO. All said and done though, I'd like to see you only add one of those fish every 3-4 weeks. And QT too if at all possible.

10-27-2006, 10:48 AM	#16
weekf Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 333	The tank has been cycled. Took 2 weeks only to cycled. Ammonia and Nitrite at 0, Nitrate at 20ppm after cycled. 50% waterchange after cycled everything still 0 except Nitrate dropped to 10ppm. Add in 10 chromis 1 week ago, water test again 10 minutes ago still Ammonia and Nitrite at 0, Nitrate at 10ppm. Has done 2 feedings for the past few days. I am planning NO butterflies as I might want to keep coral in future. They are not easy to keep anyway so am dropping the butterflies. Also will drop the blue tang as they get sick easily and I don't want to keep a quarantine tank, too costly for me to run. So I will only be keeping hardy fish and no more other tangs as I know other than yellow tang the rest are prone to sickness especially blue tang. -So please advice if ok to add the yellow tang now. -There will be more fish to come in future but NO more tang will come in. Will the yellow still act aggressive towards other new fishes?

10-27-2006, 11:21 AM	#19
weekf Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 333	Just to add my previous 2 tanks also only took 2 weeks to fully cycled. I think it has got something to do with the rocks I bought. The LFS here at my place (Perth, Australia) normally have plenty of liverocks in their tank for a while and the trip from the LFS to my place only take less than 15 mins drive so not much die off occurs. Also the saltwater we here use are collected from the ocean by an ocean farm. No mixing of own saltwater here. They supply all the saltwater to many LFS around the area and are top quality water. I have been using their water for 1 year on my previous 2 tanks no algae, no cyano at all. The above explanation may be the reason for a quick cycle.

10-28-2006, 08:27 PM	#20
EJS4 Aquarium Advice Freak Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East Windsor, NJ Posts: 254 Images: 8	If your not adding the butterflies and the blue tang. What is your new fish list?