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Old 03-06-2005, 06:01 PM   #1
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bad algea blues. (pic)

I have been singing this same sad tune for months.

what is it, and how do I get rid of it for good???
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Old 03-07-2005, 10:16 AM   #2
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can anyone help?
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Old 03-07-2005, 10:18 AM   #3
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Is that growing right on the sand? Can you remove that patch manually? I'm going to watch this thread to learn a bit. I don't have the problem right now, but I can imagine that it may be lurking out there in my future.

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Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

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Old 03-07-2005, 10:29 AM   #4
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oh its a pain in the rear-end. Its mostly on the sand, but there is a good patch of it on the rocks.

I could probibly remove it manually, but I am afraid it will just spread it. I just added chemi-clean a few days ago, but it doesn't seem to affect that stuff.
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Old 03-07-2005, 10:42 AM   #5
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I think I'd use a big gravel vac suction of the sand chunks. I'm no expert, but yur list has canister filter .. are you using bio media in there? ARe you using RO/DI water?

Most of the solutions I read involve:

1)adding macroalgae to fuge to compete for nutrients
2) remove bio media to reduce nitrates
3) use of RO/DI and/or phophate removal agents
4)cutting back feeding
5)cutting back photoperiod
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Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

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Feather duster. PJ cardinal, Bangghai cardinal, Firefish goby, Clownfish, Neon goby, Yellow watchman goby, Orchid dottyback. Various corals.
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I'm using ro/di water, there is no media in the canister. I have cut back on feeding and cut down on the "lights on" time.

none of it has had an effect.
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Old 03-07-2005, 11:46 AM   #7
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I'm using ro/di water
What is the TDS of your RO/DI and what's the water specs/chemistry?

Is the algae actually brown or is that just the way the pic turned out?

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I'm using ro/di water, there is no media in the canister. I have cut back on feeding and cut down on the "lights on" time.

none of it has had an effect.
Hmmm... well, that's it for me, then, expet for the use of macroalgae in the sump to outcompete the algae for whatever it is they are using as a nutrient source. I'm expecting some chaeto for my sump to try to head off this phenomenon.

Again, good luck. I'll be eavesdopping to read the responses. Lots of folks on this board a LOT more qualified than I to respond to your situation.
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Livestock I added:

1 skunk cleaner. 12 hermits: red, scarlet, blue. 15 or so assorted snails. Discosomas, Ricordia, Rhodactis mushroom corals, chaetomorpha (sump), 1 feather duster, Montipora digitata, Montipora capricornis, Montipora hispids. assorted zoos, Xenia, Kenya tree coral, green Sinularia, green star polyps, branching hammer coral, bubble coral, Devil's hand leather. Yellow chromis, purple firefish.

Hitchhikers: the usual suspects :crabs, bristles, urchin, mantis shrimp (now in exile in mantis tank)

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the algea is brown. same color as in the pic. and its all over. the tank on the bottom, the sides, the powerheads, etc. It is spread out thinly over the tank but it clumbs together in the sand. as shown. I do not know the tds of the water. (I have no way to measure it.)

parameters are all normal. I do not know what my PO4 count is.

also, it seems that this stuff has caused my coraline algea to take a hit. (but it could just be my imagination.)
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might as well check alk reading, cuz if the alk is too low..doesn't matter if there is phosphate or nitrate, algea is still gonna take over your tank just like mine.
Oh also...increase water flow might help.
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