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Old 09-25-2005, 11:22 PM   #11
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I do believe this is what you have and that the animal you have is bleached. (as is the one from swfish.com.
Sebaes are commonly found in shades of white under proper lighting, those are not bleached
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Old 09-25-2005, 11:55 PM   #12
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i have 130w PC fluorescents. wow. i was wondering why the pics looked different before. Hmm. great thing to get from the lfs when they dont tell you the right things. i should have double checked.
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I feed my sebae krill, every other day and sometimes daily. It is about the size of a dinner plate. Have been doing this since February with no problems.
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:12 AM   #14
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Sebae's are high light anemones and do not tolerate feedings. They much prefer to get their energy from an intense light source and what ever food it happens by from fish feedings.
This doesn't make much sense, if it would enjoy whatever floats by from what is fed the fish....it would also like direct feedings of similar fare directly. In fact, if it is bleached, it may very well be a necessity.

I just attended a presentation with Anthony Calfo a month or so ago, and he made it pretty clear that the VAST majority of whitish "Sebae" anemones are bleached and unhealthy....I do not quite believe that a light color morph is common in the hobby. The healthy color should be brownish as many people find out if they give them the right conditions.
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:16 AM   #15
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I just attended a presentation with Anthony Calfo a month or so ago, and he made it pretty clear that the VAST majority of whitish "Sebae" anemones are bleached and unhealthy....I do not quite believe that a light color morph is common in the hobby. The healthy color should be brownish as many people find out if they give them the right conditions.

HoopsGuru, were you at TFP for the seminar? If so, I was there as well. And this is where it was reinforced to me that most sebae anemones are bleached.
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well all i know is that i will be asking for a refund from my lfs because of the mixup. I cannot get a carpet anemone because of its high lighting requirements. I specifically want a bubble tip anemone. Nothing else.
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This doesn't make much sense, if it would enjoy whatever floats by from what is fed the fish....it would also like direct feedings of similar fare directly
Maybe I should have been clearer. Target feedings consist of much larger pieces/amounts of food than anything it would regularly catch just floating by, and would be an addition to what it was already getting. Target feeding these anemones is not only unnecessary but often detrimental to their health IMO and IME(unless severely bleached). They are high light anemones b/c that is where they prefer to get the majority of their energy. Target feeding my Sebae has always, now and when under VHO's, stressed it more than benefited it-*more so since upgrading to MH. On the other hand my 3 BTA clones appreciate occasional target feedings.
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The healthy color should be brownish as many people find out if they give them the right conditions.
I've had the same Sebae for 23 months now, and yes when I got it it was very white. After 14 months under VHO it became very brown(yuck!). Now it's under MH, as many vendors/aquarist recommend, and it is much whiter and as healthy looking as ever. I've seen bleaching and it is in no way bleached. Have a look- http://www.aquariumadvice.com/photop...cat=all&page=1 Cream colored is different from bleached. Severely bleached anemones are transparent white looking.
BTW I'm not trying to discount A. Calfo in anyway, I'm a reader of his articles.
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I specifically want a bubble tip anemone. Nothing else.
I think you would be much better off starting w/ a BTA. Best of luck.
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I hate that this post is getting off topic but MT79, I understand what you saying. The anemone in your picture, is a healthy looking sebae. You can see the algae at the base of it's tentacles. Pufferman's anemone is lacking that and in my opinion is bleached. A cream colored or brown where you can still see it's algae present would be obvious to me a healthy animal. The one pufferman has looks bleached and stressed to me. Perhaps we see differently but I think we can all agree that the anemone isn't a bta right?

Also, pufferman, I think you are doing the right thing for yourself and the anemone by returning it. Sorry this one didn't work out but there will be others. Good luck.
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I believe terminology is indeed an issue here. It's hard to see the anemone because the lighting washed it out in the picture, but can see the base of the tentacles are darker. I've gone off on a tangent because what you consider consider "shades of white" I consider "shades of brown"...i.e. the cream color which yours appears to be in my terminology is a light brown. So we are pretty much on the same page...cream through dark brown is a healthy sebae. However, I have yet to see the light colored sebaes at LFS to be of the "healthy" variety but instead are pretty much bleached white....and it seems that many LFS are equally surprised (or annoyed, since bleached is often how they receive and sell them) that these "pretty white anemones" are not healthy.

Fluff....I was at the TFP Calfo seminar, sitting right next to the projector during it. I was also about the only 6'6" lanky guy huddled around the frag cutting table afterwards I am still amazed at how he cut the sebae right down the middle 8O .
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It's hard to see the anemone because the lighting washed it out in the picture,
That color is very close to the way it appears in person. It took quite a few trys to get an "accurate" pic of the color lol.
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what you consider consider "shades of white" I consider "shades of brown".
I see what your saying. I think we are all on the same page HoopsG and Fluff
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I am still amazed at how he cut the sebae right down the middle
Wow!
Lets us know how the BTA works out for you Pufferman.
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