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Old 01-05-2012, 12:20 PM   #1721
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Am still trying to figure out how to get the 4 points of my light to 1 point. I've black chain right now going between the 4 points but the light is heavy on one side (plugs), so when I pull it up, the left side tilts way down due to weight. If I shift the chain then the point that goes up is not centered. UGGG.

I've decided that after my last trip in the crawl space, I wasn't going to do that again and so am trying to get this light balanced to the one point in the ceiling.

Ideas?
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Old 01-05-2012, 02:39 PM   #1722
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You're welcome.

Am still trying to figure out how to get the 4 points of my light to 1 point. I've black chain right now going between the 4 points but the light is heavy on one side (plugs), so when I pull it up, the left side tilts way down due to weight. If I shift the chain then the point that goes up is not centered. UGGG.

I've decided that after my last trip in the crawl space, I wasn't going to do that again and so am trying to get this light balanced to the one point in the ceiling.

Ideas?
You can use what is called a spreader bar. They are used by cranes when having to pick up an uneven load from multiple points. Simply a bar between two of the cables that can be shifted to accomidate the uneven balance.
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Old 01-05-2012, 03:30 PM   #1723
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Or a ballast, to even it out.
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Do the chains have to come to one pt? Its comolicated to explain but by using a third set of chains(shorter than the other two sets) it can be easily done. On the heavy end have the reg length as well as ther shrtened length going to the center pt. the regular length attaches a little higher and ther shorter length attaches at the center point(where the light side meets the load cable) this keeps the load cable straight while also pulling extra for the added weight. Its a little confusing to read, but ill try to make a diagram when i get acces to a comp later today
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:12 AM   #1725
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You can use what is called a spreader bar. They are used by cranes when having to pick up an uneven load from multiple points. Simply a bar between two of the cables that can be shifted to accomidate the uneven balance.
I've thought about that also. Thanks. Not sure I want to do that though but is an option

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Do the chains have to come to one pt? Its comolicated to explain but by using a third set of chains(shorter than the other two sets) it can be easily done. On the heavy end have the reg length as well as ther shrtened length going to the center pt. the regular length attaches a little higher and ther shorter length attaches at the center point(where the light side meets the load cable) this keeps the load cable straight while also pulling extra for the added weight. Its a little confusing to read, but ill try to make a diagram when i get acces to a comp later today
Well I bought more stuff, I swear this thing is not gonna beat me even if I have to spend 40 times what it would have cost buying something online....but most of those you have to have 2 connections up at the ceiling.

I kinda understand but when the heavy end is level with the short (regular) end wouldn't it look like off centered from the part that comes from the ceiling to meet the light?

It would be great if you could draw a pic and email it to me. I think my email is in my profile but if not, it's ....... mehuman2@gmail.com

I also bought rope and was thinking of tieing it to the 4 eyelets on the fixture and working it up to the pulleys LOL, who knows maybe a fancy knot or too would look cute.

Below I hope gives you an idea of my plan, using chain, wire, whatever, now am wondering if just using rope would be easier cause then I don't have to worry about all these ferrals, thimbles and crap coming loose.

I also have 2 turnbuckles I can use once the left side and the ride side are done so I can "tweak" height if needed.

J - hook
? - pulley
@-rope attached to pulley
.rope from pulley going down
.down
.down
.down to next pulley
? - pulley
.....then rope around this pulley and back up to the first pulley (for a tad bit of mechanical advantage/leverage) then the rope from the pulley at the hook over to the wall through another pulley and down to my hook on the wall. In between the pulley on the wall and the hook on the wall would be 2 handles, both handles able to "latch" on to the hook, one set for normal height for maintenance and the one higher up gets pulled down and latched to hook so the light raises with that one for maintenance.

Make sense???

Dang.... I'm kinda dreading the sump/fuge/algae scrubber now. But gotta get this done and get my tank back together cause I'm having a battle with GHA now. Got my phosban hooked back up sitting on the floor but the pump that I bought stinks, I can't get but a little flow and that's with the valve wide open. I used this thing for about 1 week when I first got it and I could not get the GFO to tumble except for the first day, so I stored it. I should have sent the thing back but oh well, hopefully it's gonna stay going til I can get my 75 back together.


Thanks for ya'lls input.

Nite ya'll.
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Sorry i didnt get that drawn up, i even had 15 mins of free time today, i used it to nap though, good news though its the weekend! Well at least here it is, so hopefully ill get some time tomorrow.
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Sorry i didnt get that drawn up, i even had 15 mins of free time today, i used it to nap though, good news though its the weekend! Well at least here it is, so hopefully ill get some time tomorrow.
Take your times, thanks for taking my nap LOL. I work this weekend so I won't be doing anything and then I switch over to nites so Monday is my only day off and I plan on getting it done then.

Looks like my phosphate reactor is still working, and it looks like some of the HGA is disappearing too.

Am expecting my order hopefully Monday, so I will be able to switch out bulbs at the same time.

Are the prices on the different filter bags a per bag price? Seems like that they are like that at the various online stores.
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Tank Background?

Which should I do?



Black Background from store put on with adhesive
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Black Paint?



Blue Background from store put on with adhesive
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Blue Paint?
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