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Old 07-21-2007, 01:00 AM   #111
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Got the lights setup. Everything went pretty smooth once I had everything I needed.

I only put the 250's on the timer (175's are off) until I can see what happens with the temp. I have 2 more 34CFM fans, but I need to find a 12V 1000mw adapter for them. If the 250's don't heat up too much, I'll add the 2 fans and try out the 175's.

Here's a shot. I'm getting a shadow where the tank braces are, I think I might get some long, thin strip-like mirrors and put in a triangle shape over them to bounce some of the light into the water.

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Old 07-21-2007, 11:50 AM   #112
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Or you can cut the braces out and install glass in place of the braces. That way you will eliminate the shadows.
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:20 PM   #113
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Never thought of that. I'd be a little scared of removing braces on such a big tank - although I could glue in glass (thick glass) braces right next to the plastic ones first. It would look better.
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Old 07-21-2007, 08:42 PM   #114
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Scoot, if its any kind of consolation, a friend of mine has a 180 which he removed the center braces and glued the 1" thick glass to and then siliconed it. He made sure he gave it some extra hold with the glue and silicone. Just a thought tho. I mean if you are comfortable with it, maybe you can get a buddy to help you out with it.
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:14 PM   #115
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I would not do it with water in it like that. If you use 3 bulbs and space them in between the braces, you won't get shadows. I am considering ditching my 10k's as I almost think I have too much light. My LPS's don't seem to like it very much. Some 12 or 14ks would be a bit dimmer. 4 bulbs is a lot of light. Hope you don't like mushrooms
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:32 PM   #116
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I would be afraid of doing this with water in the tank, for sure.

On the lights, I can always adjust - easier to remove lights than add them I might move to a single 175 in the middle, and the 2 250's on the ends. It's easy to change things up the way I build the framework for the lights. Plus I can easily raise or lower them.

I haven't mentioned this, but I like anemone's more than corals - I'm leaning towards doing most fish and anemone's. I want a nice giant BTA someday, and I need lots of light for those. My one tiny BTA has never really flourished, I think for lack of light.

The tank did get a little warm yesterday with the 2 250's. Up to 84.

I added 2 more fans to complete the airflow cyclce. In through the left top, then into the tank space, then out through the left side. The fans are on the same timer as the 250's.

Running the UV isn't helping keeping the water temp down - but it's helping to keep the water clear, for sure. Long-term I plan to not use it.

Plus, the house is still a lot hotter than normal - every single light is on all day, and the doors are being opened and shut non-stop. It'll be much easier to control the water temp when the house temp isn't fluctuating all the time.

Ellisz, the mushrooms seem to like the 250's - I've never seen them get so big.

I was planning on running two of the lights, probably the 250's, in a shorter cycle. The 175's would be on first, running from say 8AM to 8PM, then the 250's from noon to 4PM. Something like that. Those are just rough times, but I have two separate timers, and wasn't going to run all four through the entire light cycle.

Honestly, I can barely tell the 175's are even turned on with those 250's.

Sump socks are driving me nuts. They're dirtying up every 2 days. I think I need a bigger canister type filter.

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Just back from daily feeding. Here are some pics.











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Old 07-22-2007, 02:41 PM   #117
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My mushrooms never liked the 250's. I have to keep them in the back.

I have acros and 3 clams so you would be fine with 3 250's but I am a big believer of using what you have. If anyone can make it work, you can.

That kitchen is awesome. I need to take some updated pics of my stuff now.
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Old 07-23-2007, 09:03 AM   #118
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I still haven't drained my old tank. There are a few nassarius in there, but I'm afraid to handle them after hearing that there are varieties that can be toxic (comments?)

My old fuge is still running on its own here at home, too - haven't figured out how to plumb that really. It's not drilled. I was going to hook up a drainline in the sump, which is up pretty high towards the high water level, with a return water pump from the fuge to the sump. Too many potential failure points though. I supposed I could use my overflow box on it.

Here's what I hav ein the tank.

Blue tang
Yellow tang
Clown Trigger
Niger Trigger
5xblue chromis (lost 1 after relocating)
blue damsel
yellowtail damsel
6-spot sand goby
lawnmower blenny
2 occellaris
princess parrotfish
2 pajama cardinals
green mandarin

condylactis anemone
green bta (very small but growing)
2 kinds of GSP's (barely coming out since moving)
various mushrooms
small galaxea colony
small xenia colony (not very happy since moving)

30+ nassarius
a couple hermits
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:53 PM   #119
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Never heard that of nassarius snails ...

With the space you have, you could use a rubbermaid or similar and just place it at a height above the sump. Drill a hole in it and supply it with water from the sump with a powerhead. Let it drain right back into the sump. Very simple and mostly bullet proof. Make a drain higher than the first in case a critter or macro decides to clog the first drain. Or just get a 100 gal stock tank and have at it
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:36 AM   #120
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Thought about that - I was just hoping to use my existing fuge. Or to have glass. I'm pretty comfortable drilling acrylic now, I could order an acrylic from somewhere cheap...

Kinda stinks having a fuge full of chateo, caulerpa, mysids, and other critters, but not able to use it ;(
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