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Old 05-30-2005, 02:56 AM   #11
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I;m going against everything someone said above sorry about that. But if you do decide to go grab some coral post some pics or email me at seriousdude5@sbcglobal.net I would like to see whats gowing out there. \
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Old 05-30-2005, 10:31 AM   #12
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I would avocate first seeing whats out there and then trying to identfiy what is of interest to you to know its water requirements and lighting requirements prior to obtaning it if its legal and your dead set on removing corals from the wild vs obtaning corals that have been cultured in an aquarium enviorment.

You have a responsbility in knowing what the requirements are in the coral before removing it from the wild. With out knowing the requirements it will mean almost certin death for the coral and only lead to additional removal of wild corals to replentish the losses. This is a lose/lose situation where as obtaning coral frags from fellow hobbists of corals that interest you is a win/win.
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Old 05-30-2005, 10:44 AM   #13
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***Restraining myself***

The meer idea that you are willing to just grab something and see what happens appals me. Why destroy part of a reef without knowing what the heck you are doing? Also, the Great Barrier Reef is not the only reef in Australia protected by law. There are several species that cannot be harvested, and the harvesting of coral of any kind typically requires a permit of some sort.

This kind of reckless disregard for the destruction of the already rapidly shrinking reef is a crime against the future generations and the world enviornment.
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Old 05-30-2005, 07:42 PM   #14
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one reason why it is not a good idea is that it will bring parasites into your tank which might cause a total tank crash which no one really want to see it happen.
Then if you really want to get the coral yourself and also willing to spend so much time on QT them, you still need to get the back ground of the coral you will get or else they will die off pretty quickly when they get in your tank. It could even kill the stuff in your tank.So being a responsible hobbist you shouldn't take anything out of water without knowing what they are.
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Old 06-04-2005, 10:15 AM   #15
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Ignore the posts about taking coral effecting the environment...this is garbage. Mother nature does more damage than any of us ever will, just go diving after a cyclone and you will see incredible dmage to the coral on the gbr eg. on the yongala wreck, which is 30m deep, the coral and growth was stripped off one side of the wreck after a cyclone a few years ago. Id be more worried about not being able to keep it alive in the tank.
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Old 06-04-2005, 12:43 PM   #16
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Scott Im sorry you feel conservation is garbage. The plain and simple fact is that coral reefs have thrived for tens of thousands of years as science has shown us thru carbon dating yet its only in the last 30 years that we have seen huge decreases in the coral reefs due to human interaction. While huricanes and other natural events damage reefs they also help build new reefs by spreading around broken corals, hm anyone hear of fragging? This is how nature does it. Where as massive over collection of fish and coral species lead to the reductions in population and eventual extension unless collection is done in a sustanable way.
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I agree 100% with FF. The belief that human interaction with the world's reefs has not harmed it is simply ignorant. Do a quick search and see how many hundreds of incidents you can find.
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Scott Im sorry you feel conservation is garbage. The plain and simple fact is that coral reefs have thrived for tens of thousands of years as science has shown us thru carbon dating yet its only in the last 30 years that we have seen huge decreases in the coral reefs due to human interaction. While huricanes and other natural events damage reefs they also help build new reefs by spreading around broken corals, hm anyone hear of fragging? This is how nature does it. Where as massive over collection of fish and coral species lead to the reductions in population and eventual extension unless collection is done in a sustanable way.
Actually, right now the greatest threat to the great barrier reef is the crown of thorns starfish. It has done way more damage than human interaction.

To everyone else: I will take photo's of what i want in one trip then identify it, research how hard it is to keep and such and then decide if i want it.

Does that sound like a better idea?
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Have they idenditifed why the crown of thorns starfish's numbers have increased? Im assuming they have increased over what they had been histroically.
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Just really a load of speculation.

I've heard the increase in temperature could be doing it but i don't know.

Personally, i just think it is nature, i believe it has been happening since the earth was made, they come and go and the reefs recover but i do think something might be speeding it up, ie, global warming.

I am not that educated on the matter though, just some shows on the discovery channel and some light research.
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