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Old 09-24-2008, 06:41 PM   #1
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over stock my tank ... how to keep everything alive ? pics

i have a new 45 gal tank (month or so old) . i added 3 clownfish to get the tank started and there doing fine . i was wonder if 30 crabs and 30 snails would be to much ? i have also added 4 pepermint shrimp an 2 bristtle starfish and 2 feather dusters .

i was hopeing to get a good cleaning crew going then let the tank cycle for awhile before adding anything new .
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Welcome to the site. You may want to browse the fishless cycle and articles linked at the bottom of my sig. I wouldn't add anything else to the tank until the cycle is complete.
3 clowns (same species?) will have issues. The stars and shrimp and dusters might not make it through a cycle.
When you consider a clean up crew in a new tank, think small because there won't be much for them to eat.
I'm not a fan of hermits (you are talking about hermits right?) and 30 would be waaay too many to start off with in a 45.
I am guessing you are starting to see algae and are trying to throw a clean up crew to fix this...?
What are you water parameters?
PS, if your LFS gave you the advice to add all that before your cycle completes, you may want to consider another LFS.
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In a new tank that will be too much crabs and snails. There is not much for them to eat in a new tank. Read our article on fishless cycle in our articles section for info on cycling the tank.
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:43 AM   #4
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ok , it's been awhile since i have had a saltwater tank . i think i just go over board to fast . so say i already added all of the above fish and invertebrates how would i go about keeping them all alive ?

i live in florida so i got my sand right from the ocean , if that helps . all my rock was from another saltwater tank that was dried and cleaned . my lighting is 2 30w NO t12's and a 250w MH that i am not useing much yet .

since the damage is done i was just hopeing to find away thought this and keep everything alive . any advice would be great ....

thanks , i was looking at a few sites and this one looked the best so here i am . my clowns are all the same (false nemo kinda clowns ). i read over the fishless cycle i guess i should have done more research before starting another fish tank . i ordered a test kit it should be here any day then i can check my water . i have been doing 5 gal weekly water changes and everything is good so far .
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If I am hearing right you do not have any live rock? What are you using for filtration?
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filtration ... i have 2 biowheel style filters ...

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Old 09-27-2008, 10:16 AM   #7
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If I were you I would try and take some of those snails and crabs back, those are usually high turnover items at an LFS so I doubt they would have a problem.

You could also add dried seaweed/algea waffers to the tank to give the citters something to eat while your tank matures.
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That's some sweet rock work. Looks great
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That is some great looking LR.

I have to agree about taking some of the snails and crabs back. I wouldn't suggest adding too much food for them to eat as you could create more problems then you solve.
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