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Old 09-27-2003, 12:45 AM   #11
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Looks like it could be acclimation shock unless you have suspect fish and inverts as well as other stars.

If not acclimated slowly enough, stars can show signs of "necrosis" as quickly as the next day or even several months later.

How long have you had the star?
How was it acclimated
this sounds like the same thing that happend to me and steve was right for my stars. hope it is not.
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Old 09-30-2003, 10:11 AM   #12
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We bought the hermit crab Sept 4 and the starfish Sept 7. We returned the hermit crab to the LFS last week. What does a starfish look like if it is in "trouble"?
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Old 09-30-2003, 12:49 PM   #13
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Starfish on the downfalll will not be pretty. The flesh will start necrosing quite fast, usually beginning at the tip of the feet or dead center. Depending on how severe, it could end up a gooey white mess in less than a day or two.

One thing to note though, that considering the star is still relatively new, I would not rule out acclimation shock. Could simpley be the hermits where attracted to the decay and "cleaning up" so to speak. They would have definately made matters worse in any case.

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Old 09-30-2003, 04:20 PM   #14
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Can I stop the downward spiral? The "red" chocolate chip starfish looks the worst. The star has white spots on a few of its "chips" and one at the end of the feet.

I had hoped that the white spots were due to the hermit crab and since we removed it, everything would be ok.

When we added the starfish, I followed Petco's instructions. Put the bag at the top of the tank for 20-30 minutes then added them to the tank. I bought two snails per Steve's advice and added them today.
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Old 09-30-2003, 04:38 PM   #15
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The condition of the star does not sound dismal but it's recovery will greatly depend on water quality and it's own ability to regenerate. About the only thing you can do is provide some small pieces of meaty foods enriched with a good marine vitamin like Selcon or Zoe once ot twice a week. The rest is really up to the star.

As far as the acclimation goes, that may be somewhat satisfactory for a fish but not an invert as sensitive as a starfish. In future I would recommend drip acclimation. This will allow for a much slower process and gradually changes the salinity and ph of the bagged water to match the tank water. The process will normally take several hours and should be done for all sensitive invert acclimation.

>>Here<< is what the process entales.

What snails did you get?

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Old 09-30-2003, 09:34 PM   #16
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We feed our other fish & the stars brine shrimp (spirulina enriched) and Formula Two. Would this food be ok for what you had previously suggested?

The star is curling his feet upward and none of his "feelers" are out. We do not have any LFS that sells cerith or nassarius snails (I have checked several times) and I am apprehensive about buying online. I can't remember what kind they are.... but they are orange in color and are already attached to the glass.

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Old 10-01-2003, 12:08 AM   #17
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We feed our other fish & the stars brine shrimp (spirulina enriched) and Formula Two. Would this food be ok for what you had previously suggested?
Sounds fine but I would also suggest adding the vitamin suggested above about once a week irregardless of the foods you feed. All the animals and some corals will benefit from it.

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The star is curling his feet upward and none of his "feelers" are out.
This is actually normal behavour for this star, nothing to worry about. If I'm not mistaken it's trying to feed from the water column.

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We do not have any LFS that sells cerith or nassarius snails (I have checked several times) and I am apprehensive about buying online. I can't remember what kind they are.... but they are orange in color and are already attached to the glass
Orange would suggest moon snails and not the best to have in a reef set up. They are primarily carnivors with a taste for bi valves.

Have a look >>here<< and see if your LFS has anything the same and post back.

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Old 10-01-2003, 12:21 AM   #18
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You are correct, the snails are Red Foot Moon Snails. Should I take them back? When you say "bi valves", are you referring to star fish? We don't have any else in the tank except for fish.
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Old 10-01-2003, 12:37 AM   #19
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Bi valves are mollusks. It means having two shells like clams, mussels and oysters. Snails and most other gastropods would be considered uni valves.

The moon snail does not pose a threat to your stars or fish. Did you see any other snails on that site your LFS has in stock?

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One LFS had some turbo snails, but that's it (except for the other ones I bought).

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