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Old 11-05-2009, 10:25 AM   #11
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All this time, not much or no CUC? I'm still thinking 2 brittles is too much in such a small tank. Try this Liveaquaria "build your own" cleaner pkg. Build Your Own Reef Cleaner Packages

Consider something like 1 brittle or serpent star,1 or 2 emerald crabs, 10 nassarius (great with the sand bed!), a few smaller (mexican I believe) turbos, 5 or so ceriths, scarlert reef red tip hermits, and some cleaner or peppermint shrimp (3 max IMO).

Nothing scientific on my part, just how I'd do it.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:33 AM   #12
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:24 PM   #13
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I use reefcleaners.org they are very good there and almost always send you extras. prices are cheap and shipping is good. they also have some base rock and other things.
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:25 PM   #14
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I found some of these guys locally ReefCleaners.org | Clean Up Crews and Macro Algae - Thin Striped Hermit*
They are really good at taking care of spots of hair algae the seems to keep wanting to come back. I also have a few red legged and blue legged hermits in my tank.

I agree with Jnam just be aware of the freebies I got enough to share with a couple of friends. In fact I am getting an order ready now to include some more macro algae for my tank.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:30 PM   #15
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Yeah I had to give my freebies away too. I ordered 4 scarlet hermits and 4 zebras I got like 15 of each and a small ball of chaeto was like thesize of a basketball.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:57 PM   #16
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don't get too many turbos. They get huge! Instead of margarita snails, look at nerites. Margaritas can often be from cooler waters and don't live long in reef tank temperatures.

Don't get a green serpent star. Some will be safe but most can take fish if the opportunity arises. The reds or striped ones are usually safe.

For nitrate issues, try chaeto. I have a ball of it in my sump, which is just lit with a florescent 100W equivalent bulb. Just a standard house bulb. It's growing well and is a nitrate sponge.
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If you are considering getting Turbo snails, then you will need to make sure 100% that your rocks are secure. Also, if you have any coral or any frags, you will want those to be battened down as well. Turbo snails are known to push over decent sized rocks, when they want to get to something. If a piece of food falls between two rocks, the snail WILL try whatever it can to get to that piece of food, and that usually involves trying to get in between those rocks. The snails shell will shift the rocks as the snail tries to get to the food.. which could cause a rock slide which could leave you in a very bad situation, and possibly with saltwater soaked floors.

On another note, please take what i am about to say in to consideration because it will save you money and water quality.

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Margarita snails are very nice snails, and they do their cleanup job rather well too. However, margarita snails originate from deeper water, and colder waters. When we harvest these snails to use for our tropical temperature aquariums, we are only doing ourselves more harm, and are killing innocent snails. When the margarita snail goes from its natural coldwater habitat, to these warm waters(78-84 dF), we are greatly reducing their lifespan. In the wild, or in cold water tanks, margarita snails can live a considerable amount of time; over 2 years. In our warm water tanks, their lifespan is drastically reduced to 1 year, most of the time less than that. It is in ours and the snails best interest to stay away from margarita snails, unless you have a cold water tank.. or you are a snail murderer. Either way, one of us is losing. So, in my opinion, and for the safety and longevity of these snails, please do not buy margarita snails if you have warm water tanks.

Anyways, emerald crabs are awesome, i have two. Cleaner shrimp are also awesome, i have one. I would definitely suggest astrea snails, trochus snails, and there's a couple other ones that i have forgotten their names. Also.. ANY sea star should not be put in to a tank that is not mature. Mature being a year old, or maybe 9 or 10 months old. Like anemones, Sea stars are also very sensitive to water fluctuations, and do not tolerate high nitrates or any type of copper medications. And unfortunately, in the early stages of a tank, wierd water flucts are a normality. Save your money, and save your tears. Just wait until your tank is mature, and then you can get the sea stars.
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I sent ReefCleaners.com an email today and they suggested that I get. My tank has been up and running for about 4 yrs. I lost all of my crabs, snails, etc.. do to a crash with Nitrates. Nitrates are back down to 5ppm.

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Did you cycle the rock before adding it to the tank??
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I had 50lbs of live rock in the tank. I bought 40lbs of reef rock and have been washing it off soaking it and adding 2 pieces every 2 weeks. There are no fish in the tank only a few hermits and a starfish. Ammonia 0 Nitrites 0 Nitrates 15ppm
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