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Old 05-12-2005, 05:33 PM   #1
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Cleanup crew question?

I'm a little embarassed to ask this question, BUT...

I currently have a FO tank - no live rock. Can I add a cleanup crew to my tank without live rock, or is the live rock the only way I will keep my cleanup crew alive?
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Old 05-12-2005, 05:44 PM   #2
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I dont know if I am right, but the only thing you would have to clean is the glass and sand right?

I wouldnt see the purpose of crabs, but I think snails would keep stuff cleaned off.
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Old 05-12-2005, 06:15 PM   #3
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...the only thing you would have to clean is the glass and sand right?
Well, I do have faux and dead corals in the tank as my decoration. I don't know if I could count on a cleanup crew to keep those clean, or if it's up to me. And yes, it would be nice to have the glass and sand taken care of. Of course, I know I'll still have to do my part, just wanted to find out if ANY kind of cleanup crew is an option. My LFS store said "No, not for a fish only tank", but I have my doubts about those guys (especially since they adamantly refuse to recommend fishless cycling), and I thought I'd ask the decidedly more open (and more well-read) minds on this forum.
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Soounds like your LFS is all about the $$. I think they just want the money for you to buy a fish to cycle with, have it die and then you buy another...


Get a mag float and run it once a week, that would take care of your glass.
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IMO the crew won't keep your faux coral as clean as you might think, but I'd still do some snails - look at the nassarius vibex. They are very good for the sand bed. Maybe others for the glass. I'd try a handfull of hermits for leftover foods. Maybe others might wonder about that but, I'd try. How old is the tank. Does leftover food hit the bottom?
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Old 05-12-2005, 07:26 PM   #6
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Get a mag float and run it once a week, that would take care of your glass.
Already have one of those, and I do run it at least once a week.
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I'd try a handfull of hermits for leftover foods. Maybe others might wonder about that but, I'd try. How old is the tank. Does leftover food hit the bottom?
The tank is 3 weeks old. Very little leftover food hits the bottom. I try to feed the 5 remaining damsels enough food so that they eat it in 1 to 3 minutes, and these guys don't waste any time!
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...the crew won't keep your faux coral as clean as you might think...
I'm not against doing maintenance myself, BUT... if snails might help, then why not?
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:37 PM   #7
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I'd still do some snails - look at the nassarius vibex. They are very good for the sand bed.
More questions:
1. Can anyone tell me how many snails I should have in my 90 gallon tank?
2. Do you start with a few and then build up, or do you buy a bunch at one time and add them all at once?
3. Does having snails in the tank mean that I can't have as many fish in my tank?
4. Do you quarantine snails as you do fish?
5. Are their any particular snails that will clean the glass, or are the nassarius vibex a good choice for that also?
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:39 PM   #8
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90 snails.

Snails dont add to the bioload, so you can add all at once.

Snails dont add to the bioload so you can still have the same number of fish.

You dont QT them but you want to acclimate them very very slowly.

Go with the Vibex, as I am unsure on this one.
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90 snails.
90 snails?? Good grief! That seems like an army! Will they completely carpet the sandbed or will I really not notice that there are so many in the tank?
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Well they say as many snails as many gallons that you have.
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