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Old 04-29-2003, 10:17 AM   #11
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I've only had one incident where a hermit killed a snail and that was to get its shell. It was neither a blue or scarlet though...an oddball that slipped through somehow in an invert order. I kept him and he hasn't caused any more trouble. I have heard the astreas were bad about getting upside down, but I haven't had any trouble with mine. I think one of the important things here is to be sure that enough food is provided. Once the initial algae blooms are over, we probably need to feed enough so that some gets to the crabs. I target feed my emeralds about once a week with a small piece of krill. Maybe I'm just a bit strange, but I like my snails and crabs as much as my fish 8O .
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Old 04-29-2003, 11:07 AM   #12
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WOW... I had no idea what a debate I'd be starting... Save The Snails... that's pretty funny there guy... But back to the topic...

My LFS says... "Don't mix blue-legs and red-legs because the reds will rip the smaller blues right from their shells." And from my research, the reds are much more docile.

Now... the LFS also says "Emerald crabs are okay, but they may fight each other, and if their food runs out, they will attack other crabs and snails." I see that most everyone agrees about crabs being opportunistic. I will consider that...and know that if I get emeralds, I need to make sure they have enough to eat.

So, no stars... I can understand that...But, aren't there any that DON'T sift in the sand bed and just climb the rocks?

What about clams and Scallops? I was told I have the light, but my concern is feeding them.
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So, no stars... I can understand that...But, aren't there any that DON'T sift in the sand bed and just climb the rocks?
Most of your sepent stars and brittle stars are OK as well as the mini brittle stars, IMO, they are good members of a clean up crew, just stay away from the Emerald serpent star, they are known fish eaters.

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Scallops do not require light, as most clams , they are filterfeeders and not considered part of a clean up crew. They require lots of phytoplankton to survive, which can foul the tank rather than clean it up. I'm not knocking adding phyto to the tank, as much as telling you to be careful with it. The only clams that do not require (and actually they do much better if fed, especially when they're small) are Tridacnids and Hippopus clams, they contain zooxanthellae in their mantles and can produce their own food.
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Old 04-29-2003, 03:10 PM   #14
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Scarlet legged hermits stay relatively small. Make sure the ones your buying have yellow eye stalks. This is the easiest way to make sure your getting true scarlet (not red) legged hermits.
As for the blue leggs, after they ate 2 of my fighting conchs (@ 12.99 a piece) I'm done with them. I actually saved one of the conchs one night when I saw it being carried away by one of the blue leggs. I saved it that time but the next morning the hermitt was wearing a brand new conch shell.

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How big was the Hermit?
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Th hermits were very small at that point.
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i have scarlets and blue legs...and one we call big blue that is a banded blue leg..they don't bother each other at all but i keep a lot of empty shells for them to choose from (i get my lfs people to throw a couple of them in for free when i buy other things.) lor
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That's pretty much the method I have been using...keep a good supply of empty shells available. And, as I said before, I make sure there is plenty for them to eat. Possibly that's why I haven't had any problems with the blue legs. The emeralds, who are usually pretty shy, will come up and get their piece of krill from my fingers now. I guess I'm just a sucker...I make a pet out of everything. The kids were trying to name all the snails last night 8O .
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Can you say Energizer Bunny?

This is cool, I didn't expect this thread to keep going the way it has.. good info/stories.

The LFS here actually has hundreds if not thousands of astrea shells. They will sell them also 12 for a dollar.. They don't give anything away for free except some bad/good advice now and then... It has turned into anything for a buck these days. Well, I guess I can't blame them.. it takes a lot to run a business...

I just buy the astreas because they will fall off the glass or the rocks and then it will either rot, or get chewed, and hmmm, a shell for the hermit..
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