Go Back   Aquarium Advice - Aquarium Forum Community > Saltwater and Reef > Saltwater Reef Aquaria
Click Here to Login

Join Aquarium Advice Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com
 
Old 01-14-2004, 06:07 PM   #1
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: cornwall, england
Posts: 354
Coral gravel or live sand bed?

Coral gravel or live sand bed?

I was told today my a lfs that i should get rid of my coral gravel and replace it with some sand, as it wouldnt accumulate the detrious as much and lead to better water quality. Do you think this is true?

The gravel i have is TMC gravel of various sizes: fine, medium and coarse.

If i was to replace it i was thinking of getting some live sand from STM:

but i wasnt sure between the STM aquacultured live sand or the ultra fine marine white?
http://www.stm-shop.co.uk/acatalog/S...or_Marine.html

If you were to change over and put new sand in,how would you put it in so that it didnt cloud the water column too much?

Andrew
__________________

__________________
pomme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2004, 11:32 PM   #2
steve-s
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Coral gravel or live sand bed?

Quote:
Originally Posted by pomme
Coral gravel or live sand bed?

I was told today my a lfs that i should get rid of my coral gravel and replace it with some sand, as it wouldnt accumulate the detrious as much and lead to better water quality. Do you think this is true?
Yes. The sand will have much more benefit to the sytem as apposed to CC. Not only will the sand trap much less detritus and other water quality degading items, it also has much more surface area for needed bacteria.

Quote:
The gravel i have is TMC gravel of various sizes: fine, medium and coarse.
If i was to replace it i was thinking of getting some live sand from STM:
but i wasnt sure between the STM aquacultured live sand or the ultra fine marine white?
http://www.stm-shop.co.uk/acatalog/S...or_Marine.html
I would actually suggest you purchase the Sugarfine Aragonite and possibley a small amount of the live sand as a thin top layer. The only benefit there will be the claim of "calcious sediment from our rock bins" which should benefit the growth of coralline algae. Since you have LR, that in itself will seed the sand making the need for LS redundant and an unneccessary cost.

Quote:
If you were to change over and put new sand in,how would you put it in so that it didnt cloud the water column too much?
Just so happens we have such an article here >> How to change out your substrate
I've done this myself with 2 different tanks and it should be a snap. Preparation being key

Cheers
Steve
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2004, 05:11 AM   #3
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: cornwall, england
Posts: 354
cool thanx for that, ill get 20kg of the stuff soon, as i only want it in fron of the rocks and not under the rockwork. howdeep do you think i should have the sand bed a light scattering od a dsb (what depth)?
__________________
pomme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2004, 11:45 AM   #4
steve-s
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
If you want a DSB the depth should be 4-6". Personally I do not use them. With enough LR and proper oolitic sand, only about 1½" of sand is needed.

Cheers
Steve
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2004, 11:50 AM   #5
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: cornwall, england
Posts: 354
yeah i dont really want onejust a layer of sand to keep the detrious out and to cover the glass and also something i dont need to do anything to
__________________
pomme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2004, 11:52 AM   #6
Aquarium Advice Addict
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Greenwood, SC
Posts: 1,089
Send a message via AIM to Electrobes
I couldn't agree with steve more. Not only what he is telling you is on the ball, but you'll save a lot more money as well suing the seeding method. Out of curiosity, what set up do you have pomme?
__________________
Electrobes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2004, 11:56 AM   #7
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: cornwall, england
Posts: 354
ihave a 100 gal tank with 80kg of live rock, there are 2 overfloes to my sump where i have a caulerpa bed (although small) a deltec skimmer apf 600,a deltec fluidized bed for rowa phos (phosphate removal) and a return pump delivering 2000 l and hour, then in the tank there is sps coals and 2 common clowns, 3 green chromis, and for lighting the is a 250 watt metalhalide. and the substrate i have got at the moment is some varying size of marine gravel which goes around the rock work and not under it.

would that be okay to change.
__________________
pomme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2004, 06:44 AM   #8
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: cornwall, england
Posts: 354
do you think this could be a good substitute to the stm aragonite


the red sea stuff:

http://www.redseafish.com/Product.as...D=36&proID=188

andrew
__________________
pomme is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2004, 05:41 PM   #9
steve-s
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Actually I think it is a hype product. All you really need is an oolitic aragonite sand that is free of impurities. If you do not have a cheap playsand alternative in England, I would go with a product like Caribsea Argamax Select.

Cheers
Steve
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2004, 04:16 AM   #10
Aquarium Advice Freak
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: cornwall, england
Posts: 354
cool thanxsteve,yeah i did find aragonite sand, and put itin yeasturday and all looked good, but then i noticedthat this morning some of the sand had been blown around so you could see patches of the glass,is there anything i can do about this or just keep moving itback once in a while,or putin a deeper bed?
__________________

__________________
pomme is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
coral, gravel, live, live sand, sand, sand bed

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on AquariumAdvice.com

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sand or Coral Gravel? godslayer Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 30 09-08-2009 02:54 AM
live sand or crush shell gravel remob Saltwater Reef Aquaria 10 11-05-2005 05:33 PM
Deep Bed Sand vs Coral Rocks vwgolf0660 Saltwater & Reef - Getting Started 12 03-05-2005 02:29 AM
CC to live sand bed dpadvice Saltwater Fish Only & FOWLR 1 01-30-2004 01:17 PM
live rock or coral gravel in first? pomme Saltwater Reef Aquaria 4 10-22-2003 12:08 PM







» Photo Contest Winners








Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:10 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.