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Old 11-26-2013, 11:39 AM   #11
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I have never tested for mag or alk..I will have to look for those kits or specifically ask LFS to test my water for it. I add Reef Builder ( Raises Carbonate Alkalinity ) and have a phosban reactor and tunz skimmer in the sump. No refugium. I have saved on ebay MACRO ALGAE CAULERPA and thought about adding that to container in the DT- not attractive but may help reduce nitrates?
If you want a macro algae that you an add to your display tank then I would advise against grape caulerpa. It's amazing for removing nitrates but it's also highly invasive and a real pain to get rid of once it's in your tank. Go with chaeto if you want to add some macros to your tank. You could even tie a piece of fishing line around a ball of it and then tie that to a rock to keep it out of the powerheads. The high light and high flow should be amazing for it.
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:20 PM   #12
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Thanks everyone. I may have to advertise my fish as the tanks I am looking at are just not what I am after. In the meantime, I have a brand new canister filter 2800 litres per hour and new Aqua One G220 protein skimmer ( I was going to convert my 4 ft tank to marine but love my cichlids too ). Will using the mechanical filtration ( the canister ) as well as the sump and biological help in the meantime? I really want to buy a bigger tank and am searching day and light with ebay and classifieds. If I can do something to save my tank now and keep my livestock ( and save my corals ) it would be great. Of course I don't know as much as all you guys with years of experience in SW however thought I would suggest anyway???
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Old 11-26-2013, 04:22 PM   #13
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If you are digging in the sand when you vacuum it then that is most likely contributing to the nitrates and god knows what else. Big no no in saltwater. lol

The nitrates are catching up with you, thats the issue. I didnt have any nitrates forthe longest time and then they just appeared and got high very quick, I have 3 tangs which is a huge amount of waste and food that goes into the tank. Thats the point I was trying to make.

OOPS! will tread carefully with the sand now. Thanks
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Old 11-28-2013, 06:21 AM   #14
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As mentioned above you are never going to get over this till you lighten your bioload in the tank. All the measures that you and your LFS are suggesting is mere bandaid solutions. You must attack the problem which is high nitrates in a high bioload tank. I know you don't want a lecture and I`m not lecturing you just trying to point out that corals are suffering and what the problem is. I wish you the best and hope you can see what I`m talking about. Good Luck.

Thanks all and good news. I followed the advice, advertised my foxface, mimic tang, sailfin tang and yellow fin coris wrasse as a package and they get picked up in two days. Will do a massive water change and will focus on my reef.. The fish I am left with- 2 clarki clowns, dotty back and target mandarin ( forgot to mention him ) will suffice until I find my dream tank... then I will choose carefully when I add more. Had enough of dramas to almost turn me off.
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I'd like to add- Cut the feedings down to two or three times a week, continue with water changes, stop adding anything else.
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I'd like to add- Cut the feedings down to two or three times a week, continue with water changes, stop adding anything else.

Is that the norm or just in my situation? I have definitely been overfeeding then! I feed daily and read that the target mandarin eats a few times a day and if not fed right, would slowly starve to death. I feed the fish once a day and cut back on the corals which I would feed every few days with mysis shrimp.
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Personally I feed daily but I don't have nutrient issues in my tank. It's perfectly common for people to reduce feedings though.
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I feed my fish twice a week. They are fat too. You don't need to feed your corals unless they are non photosynthetic, and I doubt it in your case. Coral foods are a huge pollutant for the water in your tank, literally jacking your phosphate up. Stop feeding the coral and fish twice a week.
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Forgot to add that mandarins don't need fed daily really... They are primarily consumers of pods and can clean a tank out of them quickly. If yours eats prepared foods you are lucky like I am with my green mandarin. Just keep an eye on it as they can revert back to only eating pods. I think it's a good idea to keep a tank stocked with pods still as they are good clean up crew and mandarins forage all day long for them eating, hence why it is said to feed several times a day.
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Thanks - nitrites are 0 and ammonia 0. Forgot to add these in my log last night as they were fine. Didn't have problems with nitrates until the last month and I already had the same fish. Have a spare 90 litre tank currently doing hyposalinity for my blue tang which developed ich a while back- LFS also sold him to me when I first started stocking. He is a definite to re home once I know he's ok for sure and then will move some fish over to that tank til I can get my larger tank. Feeding...well my hubby is at home during the day and says he gives them either 1 cube of frozen mysis shrimp or lobster eggs,a pinch of pellets or some nori.
For sure the blue tang needs a home .
I think their minimum tank size required is 180 gal ?
I can't believe your LFS didn't tell you any tang Should be the last fish to add .
They are very aggressive and territorial .
My LFS didn't tell me other wise either even after explaining my stock and tank size .
I have a kola tang
A orange shoulder tang ,
And a powder blue .
I added a Foxface after that ended up being pretty wild .
The powder blue didn't want to accept he was going to be a neighbor.
My ritteri anemone got a taste for a Foxface
It got stung and burnt pretty bad but it's alive and well now !
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