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Old 03-17-2010, 11:05 AM   #11
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Haha, well the plan right now is to have fish and a CUC for a while, until I get the feel of SW then maybe add some beginner corals later. So do all butterflyfish eat Aiptasia? I have only heard of coperbands eating them but then again I have not read much about butterflies. Could I keep fish and invertebrates with a Raccoon Butterfly, just no corals, or do they attack inverts as well?
Not all butterflies eat aiptasia. You can have other inverts, the raccs will eat coral and feather dusters.

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Here is my .02 cents on what has and hasn't been said already.
Don't scrape the rock, like yetee said, you will be spreading them all over. I didn't know crop dusting them would work, to me that would make a mess and wouldn't kill off the big ones.
Sorry I should have been more specific in what I said, what I meant by "crop dusting" was basically get as many as you can see and if there are big clumps of them just cover the whole clump. I guess crop dusting would be just spraying it above the rock they are on which probably wont work too well haha.
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peppermint should work

I used two peppermint shrimp in my 75 gallon tank and they did the job in a matter of a few weeks.
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Old 03-18-2010, 12:51 AM   #15
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To completely sum up:
The cheapest way is squirting Klakwasser on to the oral disk from a syringe.
The natural way (also the easiest and most expensive) is to buy some Peppermints or a Copperband or a Raccoon Butterfly.
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Old 03-18-2010, 07:33 AM   #16
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I would nuke those rocks. take them out back, hose them off, then put them on the grill for a few hours at 375. then hose them again, after they cooled.
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I realize this is a new tank. I would have a word with the LFS that sold that LR.
There is another method that's used to get rid of algae by starving it of nutrients called "cooking LR". And that does not mean baking in a 350 degree oven till crispy, though that too will work, but will leave you with base rock. It really is meant for rock that is much older, having been in a tank for years. It is designed to "refresh" the rock. Here's how you do it.

Cooking Live Rock (from a RC thread)
The first step to this is commitment.
You have to be willing to remove your rock from the tank.
It doesn't have to be all at once, but I feel if you are going to do this do it all. In stages if that is easier but make sure that all of it gets done.
The new environment you are creating for your rock is to take it from an algal driven to a bacterial driven system.
In order to this, the rock needs to be in total darkness to retard and eventually kill the algae's on the rock and to give the bacteria time to do the job.
So basically you need tubs to hold the rock.
Equipment needed.
1. Dedication.
2. Tubs to cook rock in. And an equal amount of tubs to hold the rock during waterchanges.
3. A few powerheads.
4. Plenty of buckets.
5. A smug feeling of superiority that you are taking it to "the next level."
Here are the steps.
1. Get into your head and accept the fact you will be making lots of salt water if you aren't lucky enough to have access to filtered NSW.
2. Explain to significant other what is going on so they don't flip out. This process can take up to 2 months. Prepare them in advance so he/she can mark it on the calendar and that they won't nag about it until that date arrives.
3. Setup a tub(s) where the rock is to be cooked. Garages are great for this (may need a heater for the tub.
4. Make up enough water to fill tub(s) about halfway and around 5-7 buckets about 60% full.
5. Remove all the rock you want to cook at this stage. (The rock can be removed piece by piece until you are done.) I suggest shutting off the circulation beforehand to minimize dust storms.
6. Take the first piece of rock and dunk it, swish it, very, very well in the first bucket. Then do it again in the 2nd bucket, then the third.
7. Place rock in the tub.
8. Repeat steps 6 & 7 to every piece of rock you want to cook at this time. The reason I suggested 5-7 buckets of water will be evident quickly...as the water quickly turnsq brown.
9. Place powerhead(s) in the tub and plug in. Position at least one powerhead so that it agitates the surface of the water pretty well. This is to keep the water oxygenated. You can use an air pump for additional oxygenation if you wish.
9. Cover the tub. Remember, we want total darkness.
10. Empty out buckets, restart circulation on main tank.
11. Wait.
12. During the first couple of weeks it is recommended to do a swishing and dunking of the rocks twice a week.
What this entails is to make up enough water to fill up those buckets and the tub the rock is in.
First, lay out your empty tub(s) and fill buckets the same as before.
Then, uncover tub with the rock in it. Take a rock and swish it in the tub it's in to knock any easy to get off junk.
Then, swish it thru the 3 buckets again, and place in the empty tub..
Repeat for all your rocks.
Then empty the tub that all the rocks were cooking in, take it outside and rinse it out with a hose.
Place tub back where it was, fill with new saltwater, add rocks and powerheads, and cover.
Wait again until the next water change.
You will be utterly amazed at how much sand, silt, detrius is at the bottom of the tub and every bucket. It is amazing.
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yeah but he's trying to kill Aiptasia
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Cooking the rock will kill the pest anemone. It will starve to death in the absence of light and nutrients.
"They are photosynthetic, but will eat things that are small enough for them to catch"
Put them in an environment with no light and no nutrients and see what happens. Trust me. If you have too many to kill with kalk or Joes's Juice, this will kill the pest and keep the LR live.
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I guess this will also work on hydroids. I think I have some on my LR. I thought they were small feather dusters until I read a post about them. thanks cmor for the tip. Could a skimmer be added to the tub(s)?

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