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Old 04-19-2007, 05:37 PM   #11
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Hmm, nice catch folks, I have an Eclipse12, but that is just the hood/lighting/ph combo, but that is on my 20G. I guess that is a 12G and definitely agree three fish could be the cause. Let me check something on my hood.
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My mistake, I have the Eclipse Filtration and Illumination System on my 20G so I need to watch that in the future. Sorry about that.
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well, i went and done it. replaced the wheel with some lr rubble. not alot though, as i want it all under water. i'll keep the wheel in a bucket of old sw for the time being. i'll give it a couple of weeks and recheck the nitrates and if i still have the same readings i'll do 3 gallon pcw every week(instead of 2). That would be more than enough water change for a 12 gallon. I'm going to keep running the cartridges though. if i change the filter every 10 days the cartidge is very clean. I should up my estimate of the amount of lr i have, i think it's more like 12+ lbs. I would add more but in this small of a tank i want to keep a descent water volume. I'll reply to this post in a couple weeks a nd let you know what the nitates are. BTW. i have a true perc, six line, and firefish. i feed sparingly, have some snails and just bought some small snails which should survive the wrasse ( i hope!!!). Ihope this works I don't want to crash my tank!!!. Thanks for your inputs.
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Definitely a large part, and most likely the cause of, the problem. The clown alone is recommended for 20 gal or larger tanks and the wrasse 30 gal. Besides being very overstocked, which will cause water issues as your seeing, aggression and stress is going to become a problem- if it's not already. Besides the clown and wrasse not having enough room, a firefish is too shy, and the others too bold, to do well in such a small tank for a long period of time. You need to rethink your stocking choices...
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PS- You should put the bio-wheel back in place ASAP. You have too many fish for 12 lbs rock to process the waste. W/ out the wheel your most likely going to have ammonia and nitrite issues, which are much worse than NO3.
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Thanks for the heads up. I'll check the params each day to make sure i don't crash the tank. I guess thats why i bought the test kit, I'll might as well use it!!!
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Another one chiming in with "put the biowheel back". Unless you've got a super sensitive test kit, and test every hour... by the time you notice something going whacko in your tank it's going to be too late to do anything about it. If you detect ammonia, then your tank is cycling again. Granted, you can do PWCs to get the ammonia down, but that isn't going to get your tank recycled. That biowheel might, or might not, be harboring just the right amount of bacteria that you need to keep this tank out of trouble. I sure wouldn't want to risk it just to find out.

Nitrate levels of 15-20 in a 12g tank really aren't that bad to start with. Especially when you consider the amount of fish you've got in there to start with!
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I'll just agree with you guys....and point up to my previous post....put the bio-wheel back for now...the perc and wrasse are way too much for the tank...the firefish would do well in there with a cleaner shrimp and some corals....
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I put the wheel back in. I guess I'll try 3 gallon weekly pwc first.
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