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Old 12-01-2008, 12:38 PM   #1
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Do Marine Fish Have Any Natural Resistance to Ich...

...or is it a once you have it you've got it?

I am about to quarantine a fish that I think might be showing signs of it, has a few white specks on its tail fins. I ask because the fish is healthy and strong, eats like a horse. I would imagine an otherwise healthy fish could fend off such an infection or wouldn't every fish have ich?

I would prefer not using medications, though I will try a fresh water dip (how exactly do you go about this?). If I put him in a hospital tank and pamper him will he naturally get over it, or do I literally have to half poison the little guy?
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Quarantine the fish with hypo-salinity. All fish ar susceptable, especially stressed fish. Ich is a parasite (not a infection which usually refers to bacterium) that's in the water you get from the LFS or on the fish itself. My fish had super strong appetites until the day they died. I wouldn't use appetite as a measure of your fishes health, it's not the case with all fish.
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I personally would not try a fresh water dip. It will stress the fish out and cause it`s immune system to suffer. I have never seen a FW dip do any good. JMO. I would QT your fish and treat with hypo. Read these

Marine Ich/Cryptocaryon irritans - A Discussion of this Parasite and the Treatment Options Available, Part I by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com

Marine Ich/Cryptocaryon irritans - A Discussion of this Parasite and the Treatment Options Available, Part II by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com

An Ounce of Prevention is Worth a Pound of Cure: A Quarantine Tank for Everything by Steven Pro - Reefkeeping.com

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Okay, hypo it is, I just want to avoid using any artificial meds as I hear a lot of bad stories (and they cost money!).

So what happens when a fish catches ich in the wild, they just die? I am not really sure how the ich got in the tank in the first place, I quarantine anything. I suppose it could be from adding starfish, I was told not to expose them from air and while I tried my best to dilude the LFS water while acclimating it is impossible to not add LFS water if the things can't be exposed to air!
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Hmmm...

So, just finished reading the articles, and I have a question. Can I just hyposalinity my entire reef tank. The articles say I would have to quarantine ALL my fish not just the one, and that is one tall order since my QT is only 10 gallons. It would be far easier to QT my blood shimp and two corals than catch all those fish!
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In the vast expanse of the ocean the parasites are not as close together as they are in a confining tank. Also fish have a much stronger immune system in the wild then the ones that have to be caught, shipped, acclimated to the LFS tank, caught again, shipped to your home and acclimated again that are in our tank. Dont be so fast to blame the starfish. It could have been any fish, coral or maybe even an invert added to your tank. Even at QT them the parasite could have hidden in the skin of the fish.
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Hmmm...

So, just finished reading the articles, and I have a question. Can I just hyposalinity my entire reef tank. The articles say I would have to quarantine ALL my fish not just the one, and that is one tall order since my QT is only 10 gallons. It would be far easier to QT my blood shimp and two corals than catch all those fish!
The only problem is any life in your LR and sand will not make it. I agree that a 10 gallon is too small maybe you could borrow a 20 or 29 to treat. You`ve got alot of life in that LR. More than you think you do.
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When I suggested that I didn't realize how that would affect my millions of less visible inhabitants!

Funnily enough, I bet it wouldnt affect the carpet of hair algea currently coating my LR one bit!
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my maroon clown just got over ich. i always wondered if they could get over an ich infestation on their own too if they are healthy enough. luckily he got through it. just my 2 cents.
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Did you quarantine him or leave him in the display?

How contagious is ich?
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