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Old 02-28-2007, 10:50 PM   #11
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hmmmm....I guess until I see a need to add things to my tank I'm going to keep up with my 2 PWCs a month (more if needed) and let that replenish my trace elements. Things work for some and not others I have learned!
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hmmmm....I guess until I see a need to add things to my tank I'm going to keep up with my 2 PWCs a month (more if needed) and let that replenish my trace elements. Things work for some and not others I have learned!

Where are your trace elements coming from?

This is my point.... If you use RO/DI water, You have No Trace Elements to start with (Atleast this is my understanding). So the only way you are getting Trace elements is by your salt mix, or by dosing them.. Which play a big factor. I use IO right now, Which is extremely low on trace elements.

Soon I will be changing salts to either Reef Crystals, Tropic Marin, or hW Marinemix Plus BioElements. I have not yet decided which I will go with.

Once I change salts, I will revamp what I am dosing to my tank, Mainly Calcium, and magnesium as the salts I am changing to should contain most of the elements I need. At some point I am going to have to blow the money and just get an Iodine test kit.


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I agree Ziggy. I`m going to do the same thing. And I hear you chad. I dont agree with adding anything unless I know I need it but to each his own. I wish you the best Chad.
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I could be wrong, But how often do you hear of something having problems, or livestock dieing due to an overdose of one of the elements?

I am willing to bet a fair amount of money that there are 10x more problems with lack of elements then too much of one.

The system has natural ways of removing/reducing/balancing too much of a specific element, but the system itself can't do much to generate an element that is lacking...

Just my thoughts....

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You hit the nail on the head.....salt mix is where they come from. Test a fresh batch of water and see what readings you get. I have amazing coral growth SPS coral growth as in I can actually see the change from day to day and I don't add anything to my water. I'm not negating the need to dose, I'm just saying that I'm not going to put additional elements into my system until my system calls for them. With PWCs every other week my Calcium stays around 400-420 I don't test for iodine and other trace elements because I don't need to. I have 6 shrimp and 3 crabs in my tank all of the shrimp have molted and continue to. My CBS and Skunk did it last night the second time in the last 4 weeks for the cleaner. As Melosu said, to each his/her own and if it is working for you keep going with it. For those of us that want to keep things as simple as possible I will stick with the water changes and allow that to keep things stable. I use IO adn Reef crystals. I think they are pretty balanced.

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Soon I will be changing salts to either Reef Crystals, Tropic Marin, or hW Marinemix Plus BioElements. I have not yet decided which I will go with.
Dont forget Oceanic. You will not need to dose calcium with that brand. I keep my calcium at 420-450 just by doing PWC`s. No supplementation. Here is some good articles on salt mixes.

http://www.wetwebmedia.com/ca/volume...mpressions.htm

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-09/eb/index.php
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Where are your trace elements coming from?
Salt mix, that's one major reason why regular PWC's are recommended, and fish/coral food.
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Not true. Most trace elements are lethal in amounts greater than found in NSW. One form of iodine is commonly used as an antibacterial disinfectant.! I suggest you read the link I provided above.
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I use Oceanic salt mix and do not dose anything. Xenia (which apparently uses a lot of iodine) grows like crazy in my tank and the crab molts.
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I use Oceanic salt mix and do not dose anything. Xenia (which apparently uses a lot of iodine) grows like crazy in my tank and the crab molts.
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That's the bandwagon I'll jump on.
In 13 yrs now, with 10 systems on the go, I've never dosed trace elements or iodine in any form.
I raise xenia for resale through LFS, and, I have lots of shrimp that have no molting problems.
I do test for and add calcium, alkalinity, and magnesium as required.
I saw a question on where do your trace elements come from and I want to say that my tank gets them from the salt mix, and, from the food that I feed the tank. All foods add trace elements to the tank, and many add iodine forms as well.
I do water changes, not to replenish trace elements, but to reduce the buildup of trace elements that comes from feeding the tanks.
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