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Old 02-16-2014, 10:20 AM   #21
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As for doctor Tim's. It was in sale at my LFS for $15, so I bought one to cycle a 10g tank, it worked great and all parameters are in check!
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Old 02-17-2014, 09:00 AM   #23
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No coral yet, but the fish are doing great!
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Back to your main questions, you and your reef would have been much better off spending that $60 on salt, if you want to be successful, let nature takes its course
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Back to your main questions, you and your reef would have been much better off spending that $60 on salt, if you want to be successful, let nature takes its course
Could you be more specific as to why you say this? I have 2 tanks, a 140 Gallon that I did naturally with a table shrimp and a 40 Gallon that I used this product on. Both are doing great although the 40 gallon is under 6 months old. I'd like you to explain more about why using this product is wrong.
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I guess its the same old issues, using chemicals and additives to speed up the natural processes of a reef. IF we all save the money that is spent on additives, snake oils and chemicals, and just do more frequent water changes, there would be a lot successful reefers and a lot more live specimens. It may work for you but too many newbies see post like this and run out and dump additives in and fish right after, then post why is everything dieting. We have reef tanks to have a small piece of nature but then we use additives and chemicals to do what nature doesn't do naturally.
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I guess its the same old issues, using chemicals and additives to speed up the natural processes of a reef. IF we all save the money that is spent on additives, snake oils and chemicals, and just do more frequent water changes, there would be a lot successful reefers and a lot more live specimens. It may work for you but too many newbies see post like this and run out and dump additives in and fish right after, then post why is everything dieting. We have reef tanks to have a small piece of nature but then we use additives and chemicals to do what nature doesn't do naturally.
I agree with everything you said. I will say however that if you use dry sand and dry rock there is no way to get the strains of bacteria that are found in the ocean to seed your tank. In this case using Dr. Tims product is a way to introduce the "correct" bacteria found in the ocean. I put that in quotes because the research I've done is limited to product marketing from Dr. Tim and other products like his so I do not have "proof" that they are the correct strains but I do weigh what he says more heavily as Dr. Tims PHD paper was on the bacteria strains found in the oceans. I agree that there are many products out there that claim to do certain things and which are of nebulous benefit, I do think based on my own experience that Dr. Tims product works as marketed but I would never recommend someone put anything living into a tank cycled with it without days of testing to ensure that the cycle levels are correct.
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I have used it on a couple tanks. Works great... Usually cycles the tank in about. 6 days. It is the only product like this that I trust.
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My understanding is that it is just Biospira re-marketed.. Which Biospira is tried and true.
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IMO you can do something similar by seeding some live rock into the base rock and adding a carbon source. Bacterial will bloom exponentially. A bacterial source can turn into a organic waste source pretty quickly.
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