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Old 02-17-2014, 10:52 PM   #51
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If they explained that bateria dies off in a week after being bottled would you buy it, that's why I ask for a non bias opinion, their information right or wrong us bias. They are selling a product.

We all do and try what we think is best, happy reeding to all

I agree, same thing with some phytoplankton and other filter feeder food. Even refrigerated the shelf life of live cells has to be limited.
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Old 02-18-2014, 12:02 AM   #52
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I'm gonna jump in the debate here for a second.

I have in the past discouraged people from buying these miracle cycle in a bottle things. BUT after setting up at least 20 tanks over the last few years I am ready to give it a try. I chose this dr tims stuff based on the positive reviews and the information available to me.

i expect my bottle to arrive either later today, tuesday or wednesday at the latest. This is the first tank I am not using some form of existing cycled live rock so I am curious if it works. It's half experiment and half need I guess. I will be using it on my 40b and if it works there is enough in the bottle to use on my 60g, but I have a ton of live rock already so not sure if it would help or hurt. lokl
I will be listing my findings on my thread, named careys 40b something or another.
I also do not plan on adding any high bioload fish, this will be a micro and small fish tank mostly corals. So I dont expect to put a strain in the biosystem after the dr tims "cycling". Even if it gives you an accelerated "soft" cycle thats enough for my needs as I will be adding small fish and that in of itself will continue to strengthen the biosystem.
Wish me luck! I am a cynic til the end, but just have to know firsthand.
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That is also what I plan on doing.... I will post all reading in my thread .... back in the tank game... I will list daily test readings and so forth and see if I notice anything different from other was of cycling.

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Ok so i got my dr. Tims today.... so as soon as I fill up the tank it will be time to start the test on how well this stuff workes.....

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Old 02-21-2014, 08:01 PM   #55
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Dr. Tim's is great stuff. I've used it a few times. I most recently used it in December on a 45 gallon. It was cycled in 7 days. Only saw .25 ppm ammonia for a day and nitrite never went over .12 ppm. I had a large Ryukin (7-8") in there and then had to move an equally large Moor (tail damage from a rowdy male) into the tank. Even though the bio load was suddenly doubled, there wasn't any spike in ammonia or nitrite.

Follow the directions to the letter and you'll be fine.
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I'm on day three of dr tims in my 40b. Put it in tuesday and dosed ammonia to 2ppm. Yesterday it was at 2ppm ammonia and .50 nitrite
Today maybe 1.5 ammonia and 1.0 at least of nitrite

Something is definitely going on in the tank lol, but what do I do next? The ammonia I expect to keep getting lower and the nitrites will spike of course. Then the trates.
but do I have to re-dose the ammonia? Or the dr tims'?
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Dr. Tims one and only

These are the directions from his site:

Day 1 – dose ammonia to 3 ppm ammonia-nitrogen [NH3-N] max. If using DrTim’s Aquatics One & Only Live Nitrifying bacteria add it now (turn skimmer, UV and ozone off and remove filter socks for 48 hours).
Day 2 – do nothing.
Days 3, 5, 8, 11 (every 3 days) – measure ammonia and nitrite. Do nothing on days 4, 6, 9 and 10.
When ammonia and nitrite are both less than 0.5 ppm (NH3-N or NO2-N), add more ammonia to 3 ppm NH3-N.
Now measure ammonia and nitrite every day.
When ammonia and nitrite are both 0.2 ppm (NH3-N or NO2-N), add more ammonia to 3 ppm.
Continue to measure every day – when the water is able to process ammonia and nitrite to 0 ppm within 24 hours, you’re done!
Do a partial water change and add some fish.
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IMPORTANT – Do not let the ammonia or nitrite concentration get above 5 ppm.
If either ammonia or nitrite concentration get above 5 ppm, do water changes to lower the concentration.
Do not let the pH drop below 7. If it does, do a partial water change to bring the pH back up.
Now measure every day – when ammonia and nitrite are both 0 ppm, add more ammonia.
Do not add ammonia removers to bind the ammonia – overdosing with these products will just increase the cycling time.
You do not have to add ammonia everyday – the bacteria do not have to be fed every day.
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That is awesome! Thank you so much!
I will probably continue to test everyday cause I'm anal like that. lol
So two more dosings and I'll be done.

Guess now I just have to wait. bleh.....hate waiting. lol Should've used live rock. lol
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You're very welcome! He has a lot of information on his site. Dr. Tim is the guy who actually discovered the specific strains of bacteria that are present in aquariums and that's why his products work.
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He should send you the product for free as a result of your endorsements!
I'm not sure he can take credit for being first to identify nitrifying bacteria that grows in aquarium filtration. Those bacteria have been identified for ages. He also shouldn't take full credit for figuring out a form of biodegradable injection mold plastic beads can be used as a carbon source. But he has marketed these approaches well. Injecting a brand new aquarium with beneficial bacteria colonies should have no down side and should certainly speed up a new cycle. But I don't think it is smart to dump a load of live stock into the tank after pouring the stuff in as we see on some tv shows.
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